Why does UA still run HNL-NRT?
May 9, 2019, 10:51 pm
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Why does UA still run HNL-NRT?
ANA about to start A380 service on route w/ HNL gate modified to handle the beast and two new lounges (which I’ll try to visit at some point if they’re part of *A lounge system). ANA looking to double seats to HNL from Japan. UA’s HNL-NRT route seems like it doesn’t really make sense as an isolated Polaris route, especially with *A partner ANA’s hefty presence.
The gate is at the end of the Ewa concourse (opposite end of main terminal from United gates. Was wondering who was going to use it and just saw ANA’s second A380 flight into HNL was yesterday.
The gate is at the end of the Ewa concourse (opposite end of main terminal from United gates. Was wondering who was going to use it and just saw ANA’s second A380 flight into HNL was yesterday.
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May 9, 2019, 11:43 pm
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May 10, 2019, 12:20 am
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I see the NH business lounge will be a *G lounge. Looks pretty awesome. NH Lounges HNL
May 10, 2019, 12:22 am
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May 10, 2019, 7:49 am
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I’m not sure why UA should be concerned. Isn’t this route still a part of the UA/ANA JV?
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/local...pdf/110401.pdf
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/local...pdf/110401.pdf
May 10, 2019, 8:32 am
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The Japan to Hawaii market is huge and fares aren't all that low either. Just looking at flightstats for today, there are 12 HNL-Tokyo flights (1xUA, DL, KE; 2xHA, 3xNH, 4xJL) on mid to large widebodies, so United should be able to do fine with its flight, and even ANA swapping 2 789s for 380s isn't that much of a capacity increase (percentage-wise).
May 10, 2019, 8:33 am
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I thought for sure NRT-HNL wouldn't be long for the world once the NH 380s came on the schedule, but there must be some business case for the service! I wonder if the UA flight generates stronger Hawaii point-of-sale business than ANA? I look forward to trying the NH 380 but the UA flight with Polaris seats (pretty often, lately) would be a compelling option for me, especially on a redeye. ANA cabins are kept a bit too warm for my taste and I prefer the Polaris seat to the NH business class hard product... ANA soft product by a mile, though.
May 10, 2019, 9:46 am
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I look forward to trying the NH 380 but the UA flight with Polaris seats (pretty often, lately) would be a compelling option for me, especially on a redeye. ANA cabins are kept a bit too warm for my taste and I prefer the Polaris seat to the NH business class hard product... ANA soft product by a mile, though.
May 10, 2019, 10:11 am
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I’m not sure why UA should be concerned. Isn’t this route still a part of the UA/ANA JV?
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/local...pdf/110401.pdf
https://www.ana.co.jp/wws/us/e/local...pdf/110401.pdf
edit; and cargo (as suggested)
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May 10, 2019, 11:37 am
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May 10, 2019, 12:23 pm
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So looks like mid-day UA departing passengers may get to visit, but 7 am LAX/SFO departures and all redeye departures miss out. I'm thinking lounge could get crammed. Some United passengers who otherwise wouldn't get UC access could get access to ANA lounge. On the other hand, a lot of *G UA passengers don't have a clue about lounges access intricacies, especially those who fly almost exclusively domestically. They jut know they can't get into UC w/ their UA Gold or better. New ANA lounges will certainly relieve some of the HNL UC late morning / lunchtime crowd w/ ANA's (& NZ's) eligible pax going there.
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