Boringbarry

Looking at booking UA 43 for first class from OGG to EWR. It says its a 767-300, layout looks like 1-1-1 in first class with 18 rows. Wondering if this is necessarily the same plane as https://thepointsguy.com/news/united...gg-high-j-767/ or is it different? If different, is the seat still good, or some older layouts? Thanks

WineCountryUA

Yes that is high-J version. The availability of PremuimPlus seats is a further confirmation.

Repooc17

If you are looking at schedules June and after, note they are placeholders at this point. At current time, there are no nonstops operating between OGG and EWR. Just be aware your booking may be updated from nonstop to connecting flights, along with possible equipment differences.

Boringbarry

oh thats not good, I am looking at September. Is there an ETA of when this nonstop route would resume? Seems a bit risky to pay up for first class if it can change from being nonstop to having connections?

Also reading this https://thepointsguy.com/news/united...awaii-flights/ it mentions Sep 5 this route would stop, my flight is soon after, what does that mean?

higher_flyer

I didn't sit in PP but visited the rear lav from my forward Polaris seat. As others commented above, the seat map is not drawn accurately. The lav and the bulkhead in front of 20 DF are both further back towards row 20. That puts 20 AB and KL almost parallel with the cross-cabin "corridor" where the lav door is. The door is off-center facing rear, pretty much exactly in front of 20 D (separated by the bulkhead of course). So my guess is that 20 B can see directly into the lav. Personally I would avoid row 20, even if an exit row, but at least KL are not directly near the lav door.

PTahCha

Having flown in 1F this past weekend on the JFK inaugural flight, I want to make a case for it and the rest of the F seats. Sure, you give up the window view, but in exchange you get this large storage table to your left for all the excess linen and pillows, and a much larger cubby hole to place your water bottle. The only drawbacks are a) the overhead light is not properly aligned, so forget about reading any books or magazines in the dark, unless you brought your own light source. b) one of the armrests is lower than the other during the takeoff/landing position. c) the air nozzles are not reachable while you're sitting.

Not an issue - these lavs have inward folding doors. 1F has the view of the lavatory door in front of 1L.

It was working consistently, although expect satellite wi-fi speed.

cesco.g

Noticed on my most recent flight that the last two rows on the L side offer superb leg room/pitch. I would imagine row 43 being preferable, as row 44 might have limited recline due to the wall behind.

Brandinho1

Wanted to share my experience on the J heavy 767-300ER (46 Polaris Seats).

Some of my key takeaways:

- Very tight on the aisles ( as with all Polaris aircraft), but especially on the 767

- middle overhead bin space is very small; so think twice about a larger roller bag fitting in it.

- All 20 plus upgrades cleared on this flight, and since this isn’t considered a premium transcontinental route no Plus Points are needed for an upgrade.

- This route was one of the few that was supposed to get a hot sandwich but they ran out by the time they got to me ( UA Gold ). So I had a snack box.

- If your over 5 foot 11 then be warned it’s very narrow in the footwell ( Think AA 788 Concept D seat ) but fine for a non redeye transcon.

econ

The outer bin space isn't very big either. My rollaboard barely fits in lengthwise.

This route overall can also be a very tough upgrade, even with PlusPoints. I've noticed a lot of times it's down to J2 or less even before the first CPU window opens.

The odd row window seats have more space in the footwell, from what I remember.

Boringbarry

In first class, I know odd window seats are better than even, are any of the middle (D/F) seats better than others?

If I have 9A+11A, are you able to see 10D and 12D?

Thanks

FlyerBeek

If stuck with a middle seat, I generally prefer the F seats because you will have a much larger side table than the D seats (although the F seats are closer to the aisle than the D seats - so you'll need to take that into consideration). If you have 9A/11A I would not expect to be able to see 10D or 12D - the odd window seats are very private. In my opinion, the best option for two/three people traveling together would be consecutive window seats.

-FlyerBeek

Boringbarry

Thanks, we have 4 people. Think it would be better to have 8/9/10/11A, or split up and have 2 odd windows in A, 2 odd windows in L? just not sure how 'bad' the even windows are.

WineCountryUA

The "bad" for even windows, is the view out the windows is awkward and line of sight to toward the aisle. So if you are a window person for the view outside, it is not a good choice -- the odd rows are better for that.

FlyerBeek

It’s really six of one, half dozen of the other. You’re not going to be able to easily have any real conversations or interactions with companions regardless of where you’re seated in the cabin. Personally, I would value having odd window seats for everyone above all else. But, if traveling with kids I could see the benefit of being closer and just grabbing consecutive window seats all on the same side. There are no really “bad” window seats (except, perhaps, the rows that are missing windows) - it’s just that the even window seats have more aisle exposure and less of a view.

-FlyerBeek

DELee

Polaris seats are designed for isolation. If you really need/want line of sight, consider seats further back in the plane.

David