UA Award Travel Offers (post Nov 2019) - Dynamic Award "deals"
Apr 20, 2019, 2:16 pm
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No. There are two charts (Every Day and Saver) through November. What he's saying is that when you are looking a multi segment trip, the web site prices the trip at the every day rate unless saver space is available on all segments. It may be possible to get a hybrid rate if you look at each segment individually.
Prior to two weeks ago, the values in the charts were caps. In practice, the saver award space didn't ever drop until about a month ago when they added the 5K/6K/8K awards on some saver routes. The everyday space would move around between the cap and the saver award, but it was rare to ever see business class move down off of the cap. Economy, it happened frequently.
Post-11/15, no chart, no caps,, and an expectation that the average redemption cost will go way up.
Apr 20, 2019, 2:22 pm
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Yes multiple city is a way to mix Saver and Everyday ( that is somewhat new and seems to be related to the same change that priced manually build options as multi-awards and not a single award). So a partially benefit out of the previous downgrade.
Apr 20, 2019, 2:28 pm
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Back to the topic at hand, has anyone discovered any deals from the "enhanced" award booking system they'd like to share (i.e. below the saver rates)? Also would love to hear any insights people have on finding these "deals". No doubt UA will make changes over time but I still think it is worth it for the community to be United on this one working to find deals while we still have a chance!
-James
-James
Jun 7, 2019, 5:21 pm
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Thread containing post Nov 2019 award deals
Is there a thread started containing award deals post Nov 2019 (when dynamic awards hit). Thought I saw one at one time....
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jun 9, 2019 at 11:10 pm Reason: Moved to desired thread
Jun 14, 2019, 9:44 pm
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I found an amazing "deal".
YVR-LAX 08 May 2020
non-stop on UA
Business Class 50K
Coach is only 65K!
YVR-LAX 08 May 2020
non-stop on UA
Business Class 50K
Coach is only 65K!
Jun 21, 2019, 2:23 pm
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UA Mileage Plus ... where is your gun?
Just searched my first flights using miles since the change to dynamic pricing for miles. Ridiculous! The prices are at least 75%-100% higher now for three different routes I have checked. If you want to book a connection instead of a direct it is only 50% more.
Big turn off and not happy with this change.
Big turn off and not happy with this change.
Jun 21, 2019, 3:27 pm
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Just searched my first flights using miles since the change to dynamic pricing for miles. Ridiculous! The prices are at least 75%-100% higher now for three different routes I have checked. If you want to book a connection instead of a direct it is only 50% more.
Big turn off and not happy with this change.
Big turn off and not happy with this change.
Jun 21, 2019, 6:20 pm
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Just searched my first flights using miles since the change to dynamic pricing for miles. Ridiculous! The prices are at least 75%-100% higher now for three different routes I have checked. If you want to book a connection instead of a direct it is only 50% more.
Big turn off and not happy with this change.
Big turn off and not happy with this change.
Hard to compare since there's no "norm" for if saver or standard is available for a route.
Jun 22, 2019, 12:51 am
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Saver price I'm comparing it to. Also this price used to be 7,500 for one of the routes as it is under 750 miles, now it is 21-25k one way.
Jul 9, 2019, 1:32 am
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United MileagePlus Devaluation Database
The devaluations have begun, so perhaps we should develop database documenting the impact. I'll start by sharing the following, and suggesting a format:
Route: HNL-NRT
RT/OW/MC: OW
Pre-Devaluation Award Type: Business Everyday
Pre-Devaluation Award Rate: 110 K
Post-Devaluation Award Rate: 270 K
Post-Devaluation Sample Date(s): June 7-10, 2020
Devaluation Rate Increase: 145%
Route: HNL-NRT
RT/OW/MC: OW
Pre-Devaluation Award Type: Business Everyday
Pre-Devaluation Award Rate: 110 K
Post-Devaluation Award Rate: 270 K
Post-Devaluation Sample Date(s): June 7-10, 2020
Devaluation Rate Increase: 145%
Last edited by 747FC; Jul 9, 2019 at 2:24 am
Jul 9, 2019, 2:25 am
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Route: IAH/LAX/SFO-MEL/SYD
Pre-Devaluation Award Type: Business Everyday
Pre-Devaluation Award Rate: 200 K
Post-Devaluation Award Rate: 360 K
Post-Devaluation Sample Date(s): Various starting Mid-December. Mainly FrSaSu deparures.
Devaluation Rate Increase: 80%
Pre-Devaluation Award Type: Business Everyday
Pre-Devaluation Award Rate: 200 K
Post-Devaluation Award Rate: 360 K
Post-Devaluation Sample Date(s): Various starting Mid-December. Mainly FrSaSu deparures.
Devaluation Rate Increase: 80%
Jul 13, 2019, 3:16 pm
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Did Route: HNL-LHR
RT/OW/MC: OW
Pre-Devaluation Award Type: Business Everyday
Pre-Devaluation Award Rate: 165 K
Post-Devaluation Award Rate: 250 K
Post-Devaluation Sample Date(s): June 11-14, 2020
Devaluation Rate Increase: 52%
Note: On some dates, I see some of the itinerary options including both 165 or 250, for itineraries with similar total travel times.
RT/OW/MC: OW
Pre-Devaluation Award Type: Business Everyday
Pre-Devaluation Award Rate: 165 K
Post-Devaluation Award Rate: 250 K
Post-Devaluation Sample Date(s): June 11-14, 2020
Devaluation Rate Increase: 52%
Note: On some dates, I see some of the itinerary options including both 165 or 250, for itineraries with similar total travel times.
Last edited by 747FC; Jul 13, 2019 at 6:43 pm
Jul 14, 2019, 11:47 pm
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Data point
Interesting data point. I was searching for a specific flight from Europe to NYC. In all the weeks leading up to it the transatlantic segment was pricing out at 70k miles in coach. The flight was about 70% full judging by the seat map. Just 24 hours before the flight, the price dropped to the saver award level of 30k miles.
Jul 15, 2019, 1:05 am
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Interesting data point. I was searching for a specific flight from Europe to NYC. In all the weeks leading up to it the transatlantic segment was pricing out at 70k miles in coach. The flight was about 70% full judging by the seat map. Just 24 hours before the flight, the price dropped to the saver award level of 30k miles.
Jul 15, 2019, 12:36 pm
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So any search we find now for after November still won't show the dynamic charts yet?
The same flights after November might be higher?
I've found some Saver awards to Australia for mid November to early December and again in early January.
Book them now or they will likely go way up after November, probably never find a 160k Polaris round-trip to Australia/New Zealand after the dynamic pricing goes in effect?
Of course these awards are hard to get as it is -- though some people report success in getting upgrades sometimes in off-peak season.
The same flights after November might be higher?
I've found some Saver awards to Australia for mid November to early December and again in early January.
Book them now or they will likely go way up after November, probably never find a 160k Polaris round-trip to Australia/New Zealand after the dynamic pricing goes in effect?
Of course these awards are hard to get as it is -- though some people report success in getting upgrades sometimes in off-peak season.