Why is there no Premium Transcon Service for IAD to SFO (or LAX)?
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There must be several dozen threads about this. With DL offering D1 on DCA-LAX, I have to guess that if UA offers p.s., it will be xDCA, not IAD. DCA is the real premium market for O&D. Nobody schleps to IAD if it's a 10-minute car service ride out to DCA. But, the problem with DCA is that limited flights means not many departures.
UA has never uttered a peep suggesting that it would remotely consider any form of upgraded service on the IAD-SFO/LAX route, although there are occasional aircraft that are somewhat more premium than others on occasion.
Problem really is whether it's a premium market. Get rid of freebie UG's and sell a full fare premium cabin xIAD and my guess is that UA will find a way to beg, borrow or steal the aircraft the meet that demand.
UA has never uttered a peep suggesting that it would remotely consider any form of upgraded service on the IAD-SFO/LAX route, although there are occasional aircraft that are somewhat more premium than others on occasion.
Problem really is whether it's a premium market. Get rid of freebie UG's and sell a full fare premium cabin xIAD and my guess is that UA will find a way to beg, borrow or steal the aircraft the meet that demand.
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There must be several dozen threads about this. With DL offering D1 on DCA-LAX, I have to guess that if UA offers p.s., it will be xDCA, not IAD. DCA is the real premium market for O&D. Nobody schleps to IAD if it's a 10-minute car service ride out to DCA. But, the problem with DCA is that limited flights means not many departures.
UA has never uttered a peep suggesting that it would remotely consider any form of upgraded service on the IAD-SFO/LAX route, although there are occasional aircraft that are somewhat more premium than others on occasion.
Problem really is whether it's a premium market. Get rid of freebie UG's and sell a full fare premium cabin xIAD and my guess is that UA will find a way to beg, borrow or steal the aircraft the meet that demand.
UA has never uttered a peep suggesting that it would remotely consider any form of upgraded service on the IAD-SFO/LAX route, although there are occasional aircraft that are somewhat more premium than others on occasion.
Problem really is whether it's a premium market. Get rid of freebie UG's and sell a full fare premium cabin xIAD and my guess is that UA will find a way to beg, borrow or steal the aircraft the meet that demand.
Heck, there's demand for premium pax; both Fairfax and Loudoun Counties are among the wealthiest in the nation, and IAD is closer and more convenient for them than DCA. It's not like the only premium pax come from downtown DC; indeed, even for business travelers, a lot are based in Virginia and Maryland suburbs that are closer to IAD than DCA, or at best a wash given traffic.
But there's not likely to be any p.s. product ex-IAD in the near future. Too many contractor and government pax who have to book Y (and UA isn't in the business of selling Y + upgrade to lie-flats as a rule). And IAD is too much a dump.
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Unlike the PS routes, the 777's that end up on this route are repositioning flights. More often than not, it seems to be the Hawaii config, and more often than not heavily delayed
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Well, if it met your schedule the 9 AM departures out of IAD to SFO and LAX -
and the 1 PMs on the reverse flow - were the 16J IPTE 752s for a number of years.
Given the (probable certain) advent of p.s. on SFO-BOS, the 752s moved there and may have also been folded into the LAX/SFO-EWR runs.
As Kacee and others having alluded to, be careful what you wish for. The premium service demand and costing really hasn't held up flying into IAD as a UACO fortress.
Now, if they could get the slots, SFO/LAX-DCA would be a differentiator if UACO could take it p.s.
David
and the 1 PMs on the reverse flow - were the 16J IPTE 752s for a number of years.
Given the (probable certain) advent of p.s. on SFO-BOS, the 752s moved there and may have also been folded into the LAX/SFO-EWR runs.
As Kacee and others having alluded to, be careful what you wish for. The premium service demand and costing really hasn't held up flying into IAD as a UACO fortress.
Now, if they could get the slots, SFO/LAX-DCA would be a differentiator if UACO could take it p.s.
David
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There are no unconverted UA 752s in the present UA fleet -- UA would have to pull some from the boneyard or elsewhere. Plus those would likely require extensive updates / refurb.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; May 4, 2017 at 10:56 pm Reason: change 757 to 752
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What narrowbodies will have flatbeds in the future?
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I will be on UA 340 IAD-SFO in F in seat 2K in mid August. Right now, the 772 seat chart for this flight indicates there are just 8 seats in the first cabin on this particular aircraft.
However, I'm wondering if this will be the actual seating config on this flight or whether it might be something different. Are all the international 772 aircraft slated to get the Polaris seats?
However, I'm wondering if this will be the actual seating config on this flight or whether it might be something different. Are all the international 772 aircraft slated to get the Polaris seats?
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Theoretically. But it's definitely not happening anytime soon. Certainly not this year.
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I will be on UA 340 IAD-SFO in F in seat 2K in mid August. Right now, the 772 seat chart for this flight indicates there are just 8 seats in the first cabin on this particular aircraft.
However, I'm wondering if this will be the actual seating config on this flight or whether it might be something different. Are all the international 772 aircraft slated to get the Polaris seats?
However, I'm wondering if this will be the actual seating config on this flight or whether it might be something different. Are all the international 772 aircraft slated to get the Polaris seats?
If you get swapped for a 2-class 777, it'll be lie flat J by then, so that's ok too, but it's no F.
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The other flights I see w/777s tend to alternate between the new high density config and 752s.