Overhead bins for large items ONLY??
#76
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The opposite is true for me. Putting aside the earnings question, I find that as I have grown older, I have grown bolder as well, with far less tolerance to put up with nonsense from folks abusing their power. I don't care how young/old/rich/poor such people are - if they are not treating me the way they should be, I will let them know. Simple.
#77
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But someone can file a false police report accusing you of rape, or murder, or assault, or theft, or any other crime which they want to claim to be a victim of. If people are willing to lie to the police, there's no limit on what you can be arrested for.
#78
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on my flight yesterday I noticed a lot of people throwing their jackets and purses up there, and thinking " they have plenty of space in front of them". but I agree, some people check their bag and fly lightly and honestly just makes more room for people to bring their overstuffed bags on board.
#80
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OK, fair point. I suspect, however, that there may be a lower bar for what can get you in trouble on an airplane than at a Walmart. It generally seems that people are predisposed to believe a crew member who claims interference.
#82
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Misrepresentation of facts. OP wrote that the FA followed up immediately with a falsehood.
Also, customers do not "snark back." This stupid Western attitude that customers and agents are on equal footing, that customers must be equally as respectful to staff, is exactly why customer service in the West is terrible compared to Asia.
Also, customers do not "snark back." This stupid Western attitude that customers and agents are on equal footing, that customers must be equally as respectful to staff, is exactly why customer service in the West is terrible compared to Asia.
#83
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#84
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If you find being respectful to staff to be too onerous a burden to bear, I suspect the customer service you're getting isn't nearly as good as you think it is.
#85
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I never said being respectful to staff is "too onerous a burden," I meant the expectation creates an entitlement mentality in staff that leads to the poor customer service that pervades the US.
#86
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It depends upon what you did next, but, yes, I do. If you had responded again, escalating the situation further, the captain would have seen a passenger making a scene and arguing with a flight attendant. And, thanks to our national paranoia over security, I think there's a realistic chance you would have ended up in handcuffs.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28040354-post68.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26253434-post298.html
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#87
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Exactly how I feel. I'm much braver (now that I'm "older"), and absolutely ready to suffer the consequences to stand up for my rights.
I actually feel sad when I hear those who say they would just let it go: "Let the next person suffer and/or deal with it, because that's the way it is, Suck it up"
I actually feel sad when I hear those who say they would just let it go: "Let the next person suffer and/or deal with it, because that's the way it is, Suck it up"
#88
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I travel pretty light, my roller board bag on short trips is half the size allowed. Demanding I add that to my ultra small computer bag at my feet would get a stern no from me. Throw me off the airplane if you wish for that, I welcome the challenge.
#89
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OP was lucky, I know of several instances where pax were thrown off of flights who were in the right, but chose to argue with the FA instead of deferring. Here are a few:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28040354-post68.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26253434-post298.html
https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea....king-pictures/
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28040354-post68.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/26253434-post298.html
https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea....king-pictures/
#90
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This is truly pathetic... I feel for these passengers. I would have gladly joined this elite crowd had my schedule permitted it. Some things matter a lot more to me than reaching my destination on time - standing up for what I believe is right is at the top of that list. Yes, I realize that the consequence of doing so may be bad, but after going through the mental agony and self-flagellation I am going through for not standing up for myself, I believe the choice is very easy for me.
It's just plain foolishness to pick a fight with an FA, just as it's foolishness to mouth off to TSA or CBP. Especially AFTER the issue has already been resolved in your favor.
It's easy to talk big on line. We get this foolish bravado every time one of these threads crops up.
It's easy to talk big on line. We get this foolish bravado every time one of these threads crops up.
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