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tingadingling Mar 24, 2019 8:03 am

Can't redeem domestic first class(I) (SFO-HNL) on United with Krisflyer miles
 
Gday all. I'm SQ KF departing on a *A round the world redemption soon with the wife, and we haven't been able to redeem United 1st domestic after 10 months of trying. Absolutely no availability on first between HNL and SFO, only economy. Is the problem the popularity of the route, or United saving redemptions in first for its own premium passengers?

If it makes any diff I'm KF Gold and all other rtw legs are on business, booked via KF miles.

IADFlyer123 Mar 24, 2019 8:33 am

SFO-HNL is an extremely popular route that gets sold out up front. Even UA elites can’t get award space.

cfischer Mar 24, 2019 9:21 am

Any I-class is difficult to come by for domestic flights. HNL-SFO is particularly bad. Don't waste your time searching for it ... it will likely never appear.

tingadingling Mar 24, 2019 9:26 am

Thanks for the advice, should've saved myself some Award Flyer points as I kept a daily search going for more than 6 months. Nada. Nonetheless, shan't complain about going to Hawaii!

BF263533 Mar 24, 2019 9:27 am

Domestic I class very very hard to get.

rankourabu Mar 24, 2019 12:30 pm

Do saver awards even exist to Hawaii?

kale73 Mar 24, 2019 12:52 pm

So? It's been impossible to redeem MP miles for any class on SQ for several months.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...till-gone.html

HNLbasedFlyer Mar 24, 2019 1:04 pm


Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 30924232)
Do saver awards even exist to Hawaii?

There are plenty of Saver First awards HNL-SFO available - you have to be prepared to fly last minute - they typically are not available in more than a week in advance.

40K F awards available 3/25, 3/27, 3/28

Ari Mar 24, 2019 3:57 pm


Originally Posted by tingadingling (Post 30923499)
or United saving redemptions in first for its own premium passengers?

No, but if they did (and withheld them from just SQ), that would be called well-deserved karma.

jsloan Mar 24, 2019 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer (Post 30924333)
There are plenty of Saver First awards HNL-SFO available - you have to be prepared to fly last minute - they typically are not available in more than a week in advance.

40K F awards available 3/25, 3/27, 3/28

While this is accurate, I'm not sure how helpful it is for someone trying to plan a RTW award. :)

Ari Mar 24, 2019 4:10 pm


Originally Posted by jsloan (Post 30925024)
While this is accurate, I'm not sure how helpful it is for someone trying to plan a RTW award. :)

I think the OP can book the segment in X and then change it to I if/when it becomes available . . .

RTW tickets can usually be changed en-route.

mherdeg Mar 24, 2019 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 30924232)
Do saver awards even exist to Hawaii?

Searched this about a month ago and saw one day in the schedule -- it was 1 March 2019 iirc -- with I1 on SFO-HNL, I0 on all other UA sectors to Hawaii otherwise. I only searched for 6 months though.

tingadingling Mar 24, 2019 9:56 pm


Originally Posted by kale73 (Post 30924291)
So? It's been impossible to redeem MP miles for any class on SQ for several months.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...till-gone.html

I can emphathise. On its best day, SQ award bookings for J and F are still painful to get. Fact is, they have to offer an awards program but they don’t make it particularly easy. When I was PPS (1K equivalent?) I’d still be waitlisted all the time and have to harry their operators to clear several weeks before a flight (which they often eventually did). I’d hate to be an alliance partner member trying to redeem on SQ.

Though in this instance, it seems to be a multi partner problem with UA that has now been resolved except for SQ. I don’t see why they’d be in a hurry to fix it frankly.

Originally Posted by Ari (Post 30925040)
I think the OP can book the segment in X and then change it to I if/when it becomes available . . .

RTW tickets can usually be changed en-route.

Yes, this is exactly what I’m doing. If we don’t get I we’ll fly X for this leg, my main concern is baggage limits and not so much cabin/seating as we plan to sleep during the red eye anyway.

For future reference, try and book *A RTW redemptions a year in advance and be prepared to amend routes if I or F is important to you. I was flexible and still landed with a suboptimal routing. You can call in to change flights when I becomes available, but have to pay $125 for each change, on SQ anyway.

Originally Posted by HNLbasedFlyer (Post 30924333)
There are plenty of Saver First awards HNL-SFO available - you have to be prepared to fly last minute - they typically are not available in more than a week in advance.

40K F awards available 3/25, 3/27, 3/28

Great advice - thanks shall try this. Your nick name lives up to its promise!

Hipplewm Mar 25, 2019 1:12 am


Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 30924232)
Do saver awards even exist to Hawaii?


YES and we waitlisted for upgrade and got upgraded as well - 4 of US - in the middle of summer - on the 4th of July - from IAD-HNL 767 - lay flats

garykung Mar 25, 2019 10:23 pm

IAD-HNL is a different story.

SFO/LAX-HNL are the worst given they are still CPUable.


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