LX (Swiss) Phantom Award Space
#106
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SFO
Programs: DL 3MM/FC/DM LT; LH FT LT; HH DIA
Posts: 347
Just booked Swissair SFO to MUC early April in biz (70000 miles) and the reservation went thru, CC shows pending charge but it says on the my trip page:
Your purchase is confirmed and your reservation is processing.
We'll email you when your reservation has been ticketed.
does it take longer to ticket with Swiss or am I a victim of the phantom inventory?
does it take longer to ticket with Swiss or am I a victim of the phantom inventory?
#107
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 31,980
Just booked Swissair SFO to MUC early April in biz (70000 miles) and the reservation went thru, CC shows pending charge but it says on the my trip page:
Your purchase is confirmed and your reservation is processing.
We'll email you when your reservation has been ticketed.
does it take longer to ticket with Swiss or am I a victim of the phantom inventory?
does it take longer to ticket with Swiss or am I a victim of the phantom inventory?
#108
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SFO
Programs: DL 3MM/FC/DM LT; LH FT LT; HH DIA
Posts: 347
Yes, shows confirmed on swiss.com in I with seat assignments. My CC has been charged (pending) but no miles deducted yet, guess I will wait a couple days and see what happens before I call
#109
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 31,980
does it show a ticket number on United.com? They usually don't charge the card until that happens. I would not wait that long if there is no ticket number. Showing confirmed is a good sign ... get that ticket issued ... call ...
Last edited by cfischer; Mar 24, 2019 at 4:38 am
#110
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Bay Area - East Bay
Programs: UA 1k, AS 75k, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 639
I've got the same thing going on with an Austrian awards booking, confirmed on Austrian's site, but processing, no ticket number, no miles deducted yet on United's site.
#111
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 31,980
In my experience OS can take a bit longer but if it has been 2-3 hours and no ticket is issued ... I would call to see if they can push it through.
#112
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SFO
Programs: DL 3MM/FC/DM LT; LH FT LT; HH DIA
Posts: 347
I made a new reservation (same flights) which ticketed immediately and then cancelled first one with no penalty (since it was never ticketed). All good. Was concerned for a moment that it would kick me out since I basically generated a duplicate booking but all went smooth. Shows paid, miles deducted and ticket number in hand ^
#113
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: LAX/SNA
Programs: United MP, SQ Krisflyer, SPG, HHonors, SkyPesos
Posts: 60
Just as a word of caution, you can still get your itinerary cancelled even with a confirmation number, ticket, and reserved seat on LX. I had a J segment in November for ZRH-LAX and happened to notice in my United account that it was cancelled. Swiss's manage my booking site said it was deleted. I was literally ticketed 2 weeks ago and reserved a seat on Swiss's site.
The United CSR said that Swiss cancelled the flight segment. Rather than going through the hassle of trying to go through Swiss to get them to open up space, I just opted for a ZRH-LHR-LAX routing on Polaris. I'm not sure who really is at fault, but take this as a warning that your award flight on LX isn't necessarily safe even if it's ticketed and you were assigned a seat!
The United CSR said that Swiss cancelled the flight segment. Rather than going through the hassle of trying to go through Swiss to get them to open up space, I just opted for a ZRH-LHR-LAX routing on Polaris. I'm not sure who really is at fault, but take this as a warning that your award flight on LX isn't necessarily safe even if it's ticketed and you were assigned a seat!
#114
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,423
#115
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 31,980
Just as a word of caution, you can still get your itinerary cancelled even with a confirmation number, ticket, and reserved seat on LX. I had a J segment in November for ZRH-LAX and happened to notice in my United account that it was cancelled. Swiss's manage my booking site said it was deleted. I was literally ticketed 2 weeks ago and reserved a seat on Swiss's site.
The United CSR said that Swiss cancelled the flight segment. Rather than going through the hassle of trying to go through Swiss to get them to open up space, I just opted for a ZRH-LHR-LAX routing on Polaris. I'm not sure who really is at fault, but take this as a warning that your award flight on LX isn't necessarily safe even if it's ticketed and you were assigned a seat!
The United CSR said that Swiss cancelled the flight segment. Rather than going through the hassle of trying to go through Swiss to get them to open up space, I just opted for a ZRH-LHR-LAX routing on Polaris. I'm not sure who really is at fault, but take this as a warning that your award flight on LX isn't necessarily safe even if it's ticketed and you were assigned a seat!
#116
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, UA Gold, WN, Global Entry; +others wherever miles/points are found
Posts: 14,395
#117
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,423
If you are going to ask for miles back, wait until the full itinerary has been flown.
#118
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 31,980
Which reports are you referring to where the 10k refund was not granted?
#119
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,423
#120
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BOS/EAP
Programs: UA 1K, MR LTT, HH Dia, Amex Plat
Posts: 31,980
you don't need any luck with that. Had this issue 3 times with Swiss and UA told me to pound sand. Contacted the DOT that UA was unwilling to honor a ticketed itinerary. Got resolved within 48 hours each time. I always give UA a chance to make it right by figuring it out with the partner or by offering their own metal. When they don’t want to play nice, I usually don’t hesitate to get it fixed.