Jan 4, 2021, 1:37 am
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
This is an archive thread, the archive thread is https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/1960195-b737max-cleared-faa-resume-passenger-flights-when-will-ua-max-flights-resume.html
Thread Topic
The reason for continuing this thread is to inform the UA traveler on the status of the MAX recertification and if / when UA might deploy the MAX aircraft. And UA flyer's thoughts about UA deploying the MAX if that was to happen.
United does not fly the 737 MAX 8 that has been involved in two recent crashes, but it does operate the 737 MAX 9.
How to tell if your flight is scheduled to be operated by the MAX 9:
View your reservation or flight status page, either on the web or on the app. United lists the entire aircraft type. Every flight that is scheduled to be on the 737 MAX will say "Boeing 737 MAX 9." If you see anything else -- for example, "Boeing 737-900," it is not scheduled to be a MAX at this time.
The same is true in search results and anywhere else on the United site.
For advanced users: UA uses the three letter IATA identifier 7M9 for the 737 MAX 9.
All 737 MAX aircraft worldwide (MAX 8, MAX 9, and MAX 10) are currently grounded.
Thread Topic
The reason for continuing this thread is to inform the UA traveler on the status of the MAX recertification and if / when UA might deploy the MAX aircraft. And UA flyer's thoughts about UA deploying the MAX if that was to happen.
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Once again many posters in this thread have forgotten the FT rules and resorted to "Personal attacks, insults, baiting and flaming " and other non-collegial, non-civil discourse. This is not allowed.
Posters appear to be talking at others, talking about others, not discussing the core issues. Repeating the same statements, saying the same thing LOUDER is not civil discourse. These problems are not with one poster, they are not just one point of view, ...
As useful as some discussion here has been, continuing rules violations will lead to suspensions and thread closure. Please think about that before posting.
The purpose of FT is to be an informative forum that, in this case, enables the UA flyer to enhance their travel experience. There are other forums for different types of discussions. This thread was had wide latitude but that latitude is being abused.
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Once again many posters in this thread have forgotten the FT rules and resorted to "Personal attacks, insults, baiting and flaming " and other non-collegial, non-civil discourse. This is not allowed.
Posters appear to be talking at others, talking about others, not discussing the core issues. Repeating the same statements, saying the same thing LOUDER is not civil discourse. These problems are not with one poster, they are not just one point of view, ...
As useful as some discussion here has been, continuing rules violations will lead to suspensions and thread closure. Please think about that before posting.
The purpose of FT is to be an informative forum that, in this case, enables the UA flyer to enhance their travel experience. There are other forums for different types of discussions. This thread was had wide latitude but that latitude is being abused.
Bottom line, if you can not stay within the FT rules and the forum's topic areas, please do not post.
And before posting, ask if you are bringing new contributing information to the discussion -- not just repeating previous points, then please do not post.
WineCountryUA
UA coModerator
This thread has engendered some strongly felt opinions and a great tendency to wander into many peripherally related topics. By all normal FT moderation standards, this thread would have been permanently closed long ago ( and numerous members receiving disciplinary actions).
However, given the importance of the subject, the UA Moderators have tried to host this discussion but odd here as UA is not the top 1 or 2 or 3 for MAX among North America carriers. However, some have allowed their passion and non-UA related opinions to repeatedly disrupt this discussion.
The reason for continuing this thread is to inform the UA traveler on the status of the MAX recertification and if / when UA might deploy the MAX aircraft. And UA flyer's thoughts about UA deploying the MAX if that was to happen.
Discussion of Boeing's culture or the impact on Boeing's future is not in scope. Nor is comments on restructuring the regulatory process. Neither is the impacts on COVID on the general air industry -- those are not UA specific and are better discussed elsewhere. And for discussion of UA's future, there is a separate thread.
Additionally repeated postings of essentially the same content should not happen nor unnecessarily inflammatory posts. And of course, the rest of FT posting rules apply including discuss the issue and not the posters.
The Moderator team feels there is a reason / need for this thread but it has been exhausting to have to repeated re-focus the discussion -- don't be the reason this thread is permanently closed ( and get yourself in disciplinary problems).
Stick to the relevant topic which is (repeating myself)
The reason for continuing this thread is to inform the UA traveler on the status of the MAX recertification and if / when UA might deploy the MAX aircraft. And UA flyer's thoughts about UA deploying the MAX if that was to happen.
WineCountryUA
UA coModerator
However, given the importance of the subject, the UA Moderators have tried to host this discussion but odd here as UA is not the top 1 or 2 or 3 for MAX among North America carriers. However, some have allowed their passion and non-UA related opinions to repeatedly disrupt this discussion.
The reason for continuing this thread is to inform the UA traveler on the status of the MAX recertification and if / when UA might deploy the MAX aircraft. And UA flyer's thoughts about UA deploying the MAX if that was to happen.
Discussion of Boeing's culture or the impact on Boeing's future is not in scope. Nor is comments on restructuring the regulatory process. Neither is the impacts on COVID on the general air industry -- those are not UA specific and are better discussed elsewhere. And for discussion of UA's future, there is a separate thread.
Additionally repeated postings of essentially the same content should not happen nor unnecessarily inflammatory posts. And of course, the rest of FT posting rules apply including discuss the issue and not the posters.
The Moderator team feels there is a reason / need for this thread but it has been exhausting to have to repeated re-focus the discussion -- don't be the reason this thread is permanently closed ( and get yourself in disciplinary problems).
Stick to the relevant topic which is (repeating myself)
The reason for continuing this thread is to inform the UA traveler on the status of the MAX recertification and if / when UA might deploy the MAX aircraft. And UA flyer's thoughts about UA deploying the MAX if that was to happen.
WineCountryUA
UA coModerator
United does not fly the 737 MAX 8 that has been involved in two recent crashes, but it does operate the 737 MAX 9.
How to tell if your flight is scheduled to be operated by the MAX 9:
View your reservation or flight status page, either on the web or on the app. United lists the entire aircraft type. Every flight that is scheduled to be on the 737 MAX will say "Boeing 737 MAX 9." If you see anything else -- for example, "Boeing 737-900," it is not scheduled to be a MAX at this time.
The same is true in search results and anywhere else on the United site.
For advanced users: UA uses the three letter IATA identifier 7M9 for the 737 MAX 9.
All 737 MAX aircraft worldwide (MAX 8, MAX 9, and MAX 10) are currently grounded.
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Mar 16, 2019, 9:03 am
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I have an uncle who is the CEO of a parts manufacturer for the GE engines on the MAX model and saw him for a beer in LA this past week. He's very nervous about the near-term impact of this grounding on their business as that order flow is a pretty big chunk of what's on the run right now. I hadn't realized that the reason the engines moved farther out on the wings was just for fuel efficiency. Really hoping for his sake that they get this resolved soon.
Mar 16, 2019, 9:21 am
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Mar 16, 2019, 10:22 am
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Wonder how many SW MAX birds are @ HOU? That might be a reason UA is consolidating there. Centralizing the birds for the roll out of the software fix? That & probably plenty of parking space.
Mar 16, 2019, 10:40 am
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UA 706 OGG-LAX shows as 739MAX on initial status page, but seat map shows the actual plane being used. Of course, I'm flying OGG-SFO about an hour later on a 777HD in coach. OGG-SFO got the love a couple of days ago 
I already looked at possibility of SDC, but no same-day connection available to final destination.
I already looked at possibility of SDC, but no same-day connection available to final destination.
Mar 16, 2019, 1:07 pm
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UA 706 OGG-LAX shows as 739MAX on initial status page, but seat map shows the actual plane being used. Of course, I'm flying OGG-SFO about an hour later on a 777HD in coach. OGG-SFO got the love a couple of days ago I already looked at possibility of SDC, but no same-day connection available to final destination.
I already looked at possibility of SDC, but no same-day connection available to final destination.
Mar 16, 2019, 3:06 pm
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Mar 16, 2019, 3:46 pm
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Mar 16, 2019, 3:52 pm
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Meanwhile, OGG- SFO 739MAX tomorrow gets a 738 SFP substitute, which means some First passengers are going to be steaming in coach.
I’m still struck that UA is so short on mid-size planes (752/3) that the 739MAX substitute a couple of times this week between West Coast and Hawaii has been 777s w/ new Polaris seats. It also means these planes aren’t being used where they should be (like on TATL/TPAC routes torturing Business passengers w/ 8-across seating).
I’m still struck that UA is so short on mid-size planes (752/3) that the 739MAX substitute a couple of times this week between West Coast and Hawaii has been 777s w/ new Polaris seats. It also means these planes aren’t being used where they should be (like on TATL/TPAC routes torturing Business passengers w/ 8-across seating).
Mar 16, 2019, 4:30 pm
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I’m still struck that UA is so short on mid-size planes (752/3) that the 739MAX substitute a couple of times this week between West Coast and Hawaii has been 777s w/ new Polaris seats. It also means these planes aren’t being used where they should be (like on TATL/TPAC routes torturing Business passengers w/ 8-across seating).
Mar 16, 2019, 5:12 pm
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Looking for a map of routes for the 737-MAX.
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Mar 16, 2019, 11:00 pm
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I don't believe any such map exists. Although UA originally launched them on a limited number of routes, they backed off of that plan and distributed them throughout their network on an ad hoc basis. A given flight could be a MAX one day and a 739 the next.
And, of course, since the MAX planes are grounded, right now the map would be empty.
And, of course, since the MAX planes are grounded, right now the map would be empty.
Mar 17, 2019, 12:14 am
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Mar 17, 2019, 11:13 am
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Flawed analysis, failed oversight: How Boeing and FAA certified the suspect 737 MAX f
http://www.seattletimes.com/business...lion-air-crash
Federal Aviation Administration managers pushed its engineers to delegate wide responsibility for assessing the safety of the 737 MAX to Boeing itself.
Makes you wonder how to trust the FAA to do their jobs (safety of their passengers) when they were primarily focused on helping Boeing meet its deadlines. This is not good for the future of MAX.
Federal Aviation Administration managers pushed its engineers to delegate wide responsibility for assessing the safety of the 737 MAX to Boeing itself.
Makes you wonder how to trust the FAA to do their jobs (safety of their passengers) when they were primarily focused on helping Boeing meet its deadlines. This is not good for the future of MAX.
Mar 17, 2019, 11:28 am
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http://www.seattletimes.com/business...lion-air-crash
Federal Aviation Administration managers pushed its engineers to delegate wide responsibility for assessing the safety of the 737 MAX to Boeing itself.
Makes you wonder how to trust the FAA to do their jobs (safety of their passengers) when they were primarily focused on helping Boeing meet its deadlines. This is not good for the future of MAX.
Federal Aviation Administration managers pushed its engineers to delegate wide responsibility for assessing the safety of the 737 MAX to Boeing itself.
Makes you wonder how to trust the FAA to do their jobs (safety of their passengers) when they were primarily focused on helping Boeing meet its deadlines. This is not good for the future of MAX.
We, the people, are the government that funds the FAA to provide oversight of the industry to protect the public. I would have thought the customers of the FAA were the flying public not the OEMs and airlines.
Mar 17, 2019, 11:46 am
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Federal Aviation Administration managers pushed its engineers to delegate wide responsibility for assessing the safety of the 737 MAX to Boeing itself.
Makes you wonder how to trust the FAA to do their jobs (safety of their passengers) when they were primarily focused on helping Boeing meet its deadlines. This is not good for the future of MAX.
Makes you wonder how to trust the FAA to do their jobs (safety of their passengers) when they were primarily focused on helping Boeing meet its deadlines. This is not good for the future of MAX.
