Value of 1K when GPUs don't clear despite 20+ open seats?
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Anytime when 20 seats in business class open about 30 min to departure, but UA refuses to release saver J award, you have to be suspicious.
Especially if the only people on upgrade standby list are UA employees. Like in a recent thread about SFO-AKL.
These people have friends in Inventory Management intentionally blocking I/IN so the employees can enjoy free ride in business class while UA leaves miles (liability) on the table.
Or sell the passes for money.
Especially if the only people on upgrade standby list are UA employees. Like in a recent thread about SFO-AKL.
These people have friends in Inventory Management intentionally blocking I/IN so the employees can enjoy free ride in business class while UA leaves miles (liability) on the table.
Or sell the passes for money.
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Previous discussion Value of 1K when GPUs don't clear despite 20+ open seats?
Not making an official statement - but having worked in airline IM in the recent past, this is absolutely untrue and would be next to impossible to actually carry out even if you wanted to. Not at all how IM works. Not to mention that trying something like that would be so easy to audit and would get employees fired in a matter of days. I can't get into the details on how IM systems work, but want to dispel this nonsense.
I have taken screen shots of upgrade list when that SFO-AKL flight on March 3 took off.
It shows UA employees got upgraded to business class.
For the entire period, there was zero PN/PZ/IN/I space.
No Mileage Plus member can redeem saver J award.
No passenger buying ticket within 24 hours of departure can request upgrade.
I don't have a dog to fight in this flight, but this kind of stuff happens more frequently than before and it bothers me.
It devalues MP benefits....... no matter the reason. There is no way to deny that.
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Any revenue customer on an upgrade list will get it before any employee on a standby basis. Regardless of inventory availability. At the gate, all inventory is available for the gate agent to process upgrade requests.
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Even if you bought ticket long time ago, you still can't put upgrade request within 24 hours to departure. It has to be before that.
So in these cases the gate agent processing upgrade is moot.
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If you did and you are on the list, you're not as risk of losing your upgrade to a non-rev is my point.
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Not making an official statement - but having worked in airline IM in the recent past, this is absolutely untrue and would be next to impossible to actually carry out even if you wanted to. Not at all how IM works. Not to mention that trying something like that would be so easy to audit and would get employees fired in a matter of days. I can't get into the details on how IM systems work, but want to dispel this nonsense.
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I find it hard to believe that UA's auditors would not catch revenue "leakage" such as he reports is occurring. It would attract Board and shareholder attention in pretty short order.
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yes but it has nothing to do with employees or buddy passes.. ua intentionally holds back award/upgrade space to force you to buy or redeem at inflated rates rather than get smth for "free"..
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I have taken screen shots of upgrade list when that SFO-AKL flight on March 3 took off.
It shows UA employees got upgraded to business class.
For the entire period, there was zero PN/PZ/IN/I space.
No Mileage Plus member can redeem saver J award.
No passenger buying ticket within 24 hours of departure can request upgrade.
I don't have a dog to fight in this flight, but this kind of stuff happens more frequently than before and it bothers me.
It devalues MP benefits....... no matter the reason. There is no way to deny that.
It shows UA employees got upgraded to business class.
For the entire period, there was zero PN/PZ/IN/I space.
No Mileage Plus member can redeem saver J award.
No passenger buying ticket within 24 hours of departure can request upgrade.
I don't have a dog to fight in this flight, but this kind of stuff happens more frequently than before and it bothers me.
It devalues MP benefits....... no matter the reason. There is no way to deny that.
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Good luck, SkiPremier!
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Anyone who waitlisted for a saver award would have cleared. Anyone who waitlisted an upgrade more than 24 hours in advance would have cleared. Do you think there's really that much of a market for last-minute business class awards to Auckland?
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Your last statement is bunk. They are not a PRIVATE company and are held accountable for actions that would impact revenue and profit.
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I have taken screen shots of upgrade list when that SFO-AKL flight on March 3 took off.
It shows UA employees got upgraded to business class.
For the entire period, there was zero PN/PZ/IN/I space.
No Mileage Plus member can redeem saver J award.
No passenger buying ticket within 24 hours of departure can request upgrade.
I don't have a dog to fight in this flight, but this kind of stuff happens more frequently than before and it bothers me.
It devalues MP benefits....... no matter the reason. There is no way to deny that.
It shows UA employees got upgraded to business class.
For the entire period, there was zero PN/PZ/IN/I space.
No Mileage Plus member can redeem saver J award.
No passenger buying ticket within 24 hours of departure can request upgrade.
I don't have a dog to fight in this flight, but this kind of stuff happens more frequently than before and it bothers me.
It devalues MP benefits....... no matter the reason. There is no way to deny that.