Apr 16, 2019, 4:16 pm
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*** Email 7/30/19 - EWR-DEL/BOM nonstops resume September 6th.***
Posted 16 Juky 2019
Posted 15 July 2019
Posted 21 June 2019
Older Updates -- DEL "Cancellations" extended thru end of July 2019 (although Travel Alerts still refers to July 2)
Was "announced" in the Q1 earnings conference call today this would be extended to 2 July 2019, the data in "Travel waivers" has not been updated.
related thread -]UA 48/49 EWR BOM suspended due to "current events in Iran" 20 June 2019 until 1 Sept?
Posted 16 Juky 2019
Posted 15 July 2019
Posted 21 June 2019
Older Updates -- DEL "Cancellations" extended thru end of July 2019 (although Travel Alerts still refers to July 2)
Was "announced" in the Q1 earnings conference call today this would be extended to 2 July 2019, the data in "Travel waivers" has not been updated.
DEL service suspended until July
Due to seasonal winds and the continued closure of Pakistani airspace, we’re currently unable to operate our flights between New York/Newark (EWR) and New Delhi (DEL) while meeting crew flying time requirements. Beginning April 5, in order to minimize the inconveniences for our customers, we will suspend the service until July 2 for eastbound flights and July 3 for westbound flights. We’ll continue to closely monitor this situation and remain in contact with U.S. government authorities and our international partners. We’re also reaching out directly to our customers booked on these flights to provide alternative travel options, including rebooking on other airlines or offering full refunds. We will continue to operate our nonstop flights from New York/Newark to Mumbai (BOM).
Due to seasonal winds and the continued closure of Pakistani airspace, we’re currently unable to operate our flights between New York/Newark (EWR) and New Delhi (DEL) while meeting crew flying time requirements. Beginning April 5, in order to minimize the inconveniences for our customers, we will suspend the service until July 2 for eastbound flights and July 3 for westbound flights. We’ll continue to closely monitor this situation and remain in contact with U.S. government authorities and our international partners. We’re also reaching out directly to our customers booked on these flights to provide alternative travel options, including rebooking on other airlines or offering full refunds. We will continue to operate our nonstop flights from New York/Newark to Mumbai (BOM).
related thread -]UA 48/49 EWR BOM suspended due to "current events in Iran" 20 June 2019 until 1 Sept?
India/Pakistan 2019 conflict impacts UA to India,DEL suspended 5 Apr 19 until 5 Sept?
Feb 27, 2019, 3:00 pm
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Edit: though today they are indeed stopping over in the UAE at SHJ presumably to fuel up. must be too close to reserves with extended area of caution.
Edit #2 : Looks like they swapped a 77W the other day.
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Feb 27, 2019, 3:16 pm
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AI on SFO-DEL does not normally need to overfly Pakistani airspace. typical routing takes it more over China. Of course winds etc can affect such a long flight.
Edit: though today they are indeed stopping over in the UAE at SHJ presumably to fuel up. must be too close to reserves with extended area of caution.
Edit: though today they are indeed stopping over in the UAE at SHJ presumably to fuel up. must be too close to reserves with extended area of caution.
as you edited to add, today's SFO-DEL will stop in SHJ for fuel. they've been using the 77W for the past week or so; i'll be interested to see whether AI does an equipment swap back to the usual 77L (which presumably wouldn't need the tech stop).
Feb 27, 2019, 3:43 pm
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everything that i see on the free version of flightaware takes SFO-DEL flight directly through pakistan. not necessarily the return, and of course we're in the middle of winter - so this may not be the case year-round.
as you edited to add, today's SFO-DEL will stop in SHJ for fuel. they've been using the 77W for the past week or so; i'll be interested to see whether AI does an equipment swap back to the usual 77L (which presumably wouldn't need the tech stop).
as you edited to add, today's SFO-DEL will stop in SHJ for fuel. they've been using the 77W for the past week or so; i'll be interested to see whether AI does an equipment swap back to the usual 77L (which presumably wouldn't need the tech stop).
I too will be interested to see if they put a 77L back on the route and take a slightly more northerly heading going to SFO. Distance wise it would seem that AC, AI, and UA would be the only airlines with a major inconvenience by this. Most of the EU or Asian carriers who normally overfly the region should have the range to stretch a little north or south to avoid it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/n...-not-atlantic/
Feb 27, 2019, 4:53 pm
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That's about it! Years ago BIL with Indian passport & green card + return ticket back to USA was given a very hard time in spite of BA issuing an alternate ticket next morning. 30 minutes and then they relented. BIL has not set foot in UK since then.
Feb 27, 2019, 5:10 pm
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Back when I was a student - I missed a connection in LHR and was allowed to go to a hotel on a temporary 48 hour visa. These days, you can officially get 48 hour landside entry if you have visa's of some other countries(US, etc.). Being stranded in a Schengen zone is a pain - I could leave CDG once when I was caught in a strike as I had a schengen visa, but there were many others not allowed to leave. Maybe that's why Air Canada turned back to Toronto from over Europe.
Feb 27, 2019, 6:09 pm
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Back when I was a student - I missed a connection in LHR and was allowed to go to a hotel on a temporary 48 hour visa. These days, you can officially get 48 hour landside entry if you have visa's of some other countries(US, etc.). Being stranded in a Schengen zone is a pain - I could leave CDG once when I was caught in a strike as I had a schengen visa, but there were many others not allowed to leave. Maybe that's why Air Canada turned back to Toronto from over Europe.
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Feb 27, 2019, 6:16 pm
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I’d say at least 1/3 of the passengers did not have eu Visa upon landing in Fra, just based on how they made everyone cue up.
For those w/o it seems UA booked anyone who they couldn’t get out today in a hotel room in the transit area. Definitely none of those unlucky passengers were allowed to leave the secured terminal they brought us to (b side) Shengen
For those w/o it seems UA booked anyone who they couldn’t get out today in a hotel room in the transit area. Definitely none of those unlucky passengers were allowed to leave the secured terminal they brought us to (b side) Shengen
Feb 27, 2019, 6:29 pm
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Feb 27, 2019, 7:41 pm
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Yesterday's flight canceled its extra segment and terminated at FRA.
Looks like they've gassed up tonight's UA48 and it's filed to fly through Egypt and Saudi airspace to reach BOM nonstop. UA82 still on the ground figuring things out at EWR, but no diversion filed yet.
Looks like they've gassed up tonight's UA48 and it's filed to fly through Egypt and Saudi airspace to reach BOM nonstop. UA82 still on the ground figuring things out at EWR, but no diversion filed yet.
Feb 27, 2019, 8:08 pm
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https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL48
Feb 27, 2019, 9:50 pm
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Yeah, both UA49 and UA83 are filing planned diversions to BGR for fuel and crew. Both are also showing 8h20+ delayed, due to "crew time exceeded" -- I wonder if this is due to crew movement issues with the canceled flights?
Code:
0083/28FEB F DEL/ETD 830A L08.45 CREW TIME EXCEEDED P BGR/ETA 1213P FLAG STOP-INTERM-ETD 1233P PREVIOUS STOP DEL F BGR/ETD 1253P F EWR/ETA 206P L09.31 D FCF/FSTOP BGR ENRT DEL-EWR A/SYSTEM CONTROL
Code:
0049/01MAR F BOM/ETD 830A L08.20 CREW TIME EXCEEDED P BGR/ETA 104P FLAG STOP-INTERM-ETD 124P PREVIOUS STOP BOM F EWR/ETA 150P L08.10
Feb 27, 2019, 10:17 pm
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Yeah, both UA49 and UA83 are filing planned diversions to BGR for fuel and crew. Both are also showing 8h20+ delayed, due to "crew time exceeded" -- I wonder if this is due to crew movement issues with the canceled flights?
0083/28FEB
F DEL/ETD 830A L08.45 CREW TIME EXCEEDED
P BGR/ETA 1213P FLAG STOP-INTERM-ETD 1233P PREVIOUS STOP DEL
F BGR/ETD 1253P
F EWR/ETA 206P L09.31
D FCF/FSTOP BGR ENRT DEL-EWR A/SYSTEM CONTROL
0049/01MAR
F BOM/ETD 830A L08.20 CREW TIME EXCEEDED
P BGR/ETA 104P FLAG STOP-INTERM-ETD 124P PREVIOUS STOP BOM
F EWR/ETA 150P L08.10
0083/28FEB
F DEL/ETD 830A L08.45 CREW TIME EXCEEDED
P BGR/ETA 1213P FLAG STOP-INTERM-ETD 1233P PREVIOUS STOP DEL
F BGR/ETD 1253P
F EWR/ETA 206P L09.31
D FCF/FSTOP BGR ENRT DEL-EWR A/SYSTEM CONTROL
0049/01MAR
F BOM/ETD 830A L08.20 CREW TIME EXCEEDED
P BGR/ETA 104P FLAG STOP-INTERM-ETD 124P PREVIOUS STOP BOM
F EWR/ETA 150P L08.10