Feb 22, 2019, 12:52 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
There may a formal rule on devices over 2 lbs but the most common observation is physical keyboards is what many FAs use to determine acceptability below 10,000 ft.
--- Keyboard - not allowed below 10,000 ft
--- No keyboard and does not appear to be too large, OK below 10,000 ft
FAA has a rule no more than 3 lbs in the seatback storage area.
--- Keyboard - not allowed below 10,000 ft
--- No keyboard and does not appear to be too large, OK below 10,000 ft
FAA has a rule no more than 3 lbs in the seatback storage area.
FA manual says "Use of small, lightweight PEDs (e.g. Apple iPad, Samsung Galaxy Tablet, Microsoft surface, etc) is permitted gate-to-gate on UA flights..." Anything under 2lbs may be placed in a pocket, a seatback pocket, or held -- it may not be left unsecured on an adjacent empty seat. Anything over 2lbs must be stowed in an approved carryon baggage location. ....
UA rules on electronic devices allowed below 10,000 ft, while landing or taking off??
Oct 10, 2017, 8:27 pm
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Things can really fly within a plane if they're not secure. Last week, a passenger across the aisle from me in 2A (a 737-900) left her phone on the arm rest during take off. It fell on the floor, and scooted all the way to the end of the plane. After the seat belt sign was turned off, the passenger went back and found it after 15-20 minutes of searching. "That's why you stow your equipment before takeoff" said the FA when she returned to her seat.
Oct 10, 2017, 8:34 pm
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Oct 10, 2017, 8:35 pm
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Things can really fly within a plane if they're not secure. Last week, a passenger across the aisle from me in 2A (a 737-900) left her phone on the arm rest during take off. It fell on the floor, and scooted all the way to the end of the plane. After the seat belt sign was turned off, the passenger went back and found it after 15-20 minutes of searching. "That's why you stow your equipment before takeoff" said the FA when she returned to her seat.
Oct 10, 2017, 8:38 pm
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Am I the only one that thinks cell phone usage and electronics closed at landing are nonsensical? I can't believe there are still folks that think having cell phones on during a flight is a risk. There has not been a flight in NA in the last 10 years that hasn't had a cell phone on.
Oct 10, 2017, 8:47 pm
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Am I the only one that thinks cell phone usage and electronics closed at landing are nonsensical? I can't believe there are still folks that think having cell phones on during a flight is a risk. There has not been a flight in NA in the last 10 years that hasn't had a cell phone on.
Oct 10, 2017, 10:43 pm
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Been there, done that for exactly the same thing. Person sitting across from me was using a laptop during taxi and take-off so I snapped a picture and sent in a complaint. About 2 months late the investigator contacted me for details, verifying that the picture was taken during take off, did I talk to the FA, other details.
Oct 11, 2017, 1:23 am
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I have to disagree. While nothing untoward occurred in this instance, had the aircraft experienced some difficulty in the landing - a hard landing, blown tire, hard braking (for whatever reason), etc. - the laptop could easily have gone airborne and potentially struck and injured someone. Since the laptop offender was seated in Row 1 the most likely "someone" would have been a flight attendant seated near the boarding door, lending a sense of karma to the situation.
Most of the taxi, takeoff, and landing rules for passengers are "Meh. Much ado about nothing" in the ordinary course of events. They're not there for that. They're there for the relatively rare (but often unpredictable) occasions when things go "sideways".
My biggest problem with this situation is that the flight attendants, who we have been told time and time again are "primarily there for our safety" didn't do their jobs.
Most of the taxi, takeoff, and landing rules for passengers are "Meh. Much ado about nothing" in the ordinary course of events. They're not there for that. They're there for the relatively rare (but often unpredictable) occasions when things go "sideways".
My biggest problem with this situation is that the flight attendants, who we have been told time and time again are "primarily there for our safety" didn't do their jobs.
Oct 11, 2017, 2:31 am
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Oct 11, 2017, 2:31 am
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You are assuming of course that the laptop is > 2lbs which is the United defined weight limit for devices that have to be stowed before takeoff/landing. I can't tell from the image.
Oct 11, 2017, 6:45 am
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Things can really fly within a plane if they're not secure. Last week, a passenger across the aisle from me in 2A (a 737-900) left her phone on the arm rest during take off. It fell on the floor, and scooted all the way to the end of the plane. After the seat belt sign was turned off, the passenger went back and found it after 15-20 minutes of searching. "That's why you stow your equipment before takeoff" said the FA when she returned to her seat.
Am I the only one that thinks cell phone usage and electronics closed at landing are nonsensical? I can't believe there are still folks that think having cell phones on during a flight is a risk. There has not been a flight in NA in the last 10 years that hasn't had a cell phone on.
. I don't think having them on and stowed is a risk, but I've spoken with a couple pilots who think it might be. Either way, I don't see any downside in having to turn off my phone for a few hours, since I'm not allowed to talk on it anyway. Heaven forbid I don't see a few text messages until I land or a telemarketer's missed call.
Oct 11, 2017, 6:58 am
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I think they are saying that on all flights now. I heard the announcement on my short haul domestic flights (PHL-ORD-MSP) over the weekend.
Oct 11, 2017, 7:48 am
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Take a hard rectangular object weighing 1.99 lbs and hit yourself with it as hard as you can over your left eye. Whack yourself with the edge of the device for maximum impact.
Next, take a similar object weighing 2.01 lbs and do the same over your right eye.
Did the first object cause significantly less pain, suffering and tissue damage than the first?
Please report your findings.
Oct 11, 2017, 8:06 am
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Did you post this to validate post #2 ? 
Put another way: If you think this rule shouldn't apply (to you?) - are you okay with me selecting my own set of rules to follow, too?
Put another way: If you think this rule shouldn't apply (to you?) - are you okay with me selecting my own set of rules to follow, too?