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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:00 pm
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United Airlines Adds Service to Tokyo, Haneda with Routes from Chicago, Los Angeles, New York/Newark and Washington, D.C.

CHICAGO, Aug. 16, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines today announced it will begin service between four of its U.S. hubs and Tokyo's Haneda International Airport, located approximately 15 minutes from downtown Tokyo. United will begin operating nonstop service between Chicago, Los Angeles, New York/Newark and Washington, D.C. and Haneda on March 28, 2020, subject to government approval. United currently offers daily nonstop service between San Francisco and Haneda. Tickets for United's new Haneda flights will be available for purchase starting Saturday, August 17.

In addition to United's new Haneda flights, Tokyo's Narita International airport will continue to be a hub for United with nonstop daily service between Narita and Denver, Guam, Honolulu, Houston, Los Angeles, New York/Newark and San Francisco. With the start of these new routes, United will no longer serve Narita from its Chicago and Washington D.C. hubs, and will shift these flights from Narita to Haneda.

"Our new service to Haneda gives our customers more choice and connections to more than 65 destinations throughout Asia. With service beginning next spring, we look forward to providing convenient service for the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020, and beyond," said Patrick Quayle, United's vice president of International Network. "United has offered nonstop service between the U.S. and Japan for more than 40 years and we are excited to expand our Japan network at Tokyo's Haneda Airport and continue to be the largest U.S. carrier to Japan."

United commends the efforts of Secretary Elaine Chao, her team at the U.S. Department of Transportation and officials at the U.S. State Department in making additional services at Tokyo Haneda a reality starting spring 2020.[/quote]





2019 HANEDA COMBINATION SERVICES
ALLOCATION PROCEEDING
DOCKET DOT-OST-2019-0014


U.S. Department of Transportation Tentatively Grants United Airlines Authority to Operate New Service to Tokyo Haneda
New slots from four hubs to Haneda Airport will expand United's best-in-class Japan route network to better meet demand from U.S. consumers and businesses
CHICAGO, May 16, 2019
-- The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) today announced that United Airlines was tentatively granted a total of four daily nonstop flights to Tokyo Haneda Airport (HND). The slots will be allocated for flights from United's hubs at Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR), Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD), Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD) and Los Angeles International Airport (LAX). Pending completion of an aviation agreement between the U.S. and Japanese governments later this year, the flights are expected to begin service by the summer of 2020.

"As the largest U.S. carrier to Asia, we are excited to see we were granted additional slots to Haneda to help more Americans travel between our nation and Japan's capital city, which will offer our customers an unparalleled experience while maximizing choice," said United Airlines President Scott Kirby. "We would like to thank the U.S. Department of Transportation for its work in reviewing our proposal and advocating for what is best for the American public and for our economy. We also recognize the efforts of the U.S. State Department's work with the DOT to enable additional service at Haneda."

Together, the flights from these U.S. mainland hub cities will connect Tokyo Haneda with:
  • The U.S.'s largest metropolitan area and center of finance and commerce, Newark/New York;
  • The most important logistics and transportation hub in the Midwest, Chicago;
  • The seat of the U.S. federal government, Washington, D.C.; and
  • Additional U.S. carrier service in the largest U.S. mainland - Tokyo market at Los Angeles.
This announcement will strengthen United's broad-based and end-to-end network between the United States and Japan. United's proposed flights to Haneda would allow U.S. consumers to make connections to 37 points in Japan via United's joint venture partner All Nippon Airways (ANA), strengthening United's existing comprehensive network. Throughout this proceeding United has been the only U.S. airline to recognize the unique benefits that Tokyo Haneda and Tokyo Narita offer to the traveling public.


Only United has committed to providing service to both Tokyo airports from regions across the United States. United has proven its long-term commitment to Tokyo as a key gateway in Asia, serving Tokyo from all seven of its U.S. mainland hubs. United also serves 31 markets in the Asia/Pacific region, more than any other U.S. carrier, and has successfully launched 11 new nonstop flights from the U.S. mainland to destinations throughout the Asia/Pacific region since 2014.
United Applies to Serve Tokyo Haneda from Six Leading U.S. Hubs Where Demand Is Highest

Proposed daily nonstop flights from hubs at Newark Liberty, Chicago O'Hare, Washington Dulles, Los Angeles International, Houston George Bush and Guam will maximize choice and convenience for U.S. consumers and businesses

CHICAGO, Feb. 21, 2019
-- United Airlines announced today it has filed an application with the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) for a total of six daily nonstop flights to Tokyo Haneda Airport (HND) from Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR), Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD), Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD), Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), Houston George Bush Intercontinental Airport (IAH) and Guam's A.B. Won Pat International Airport (GUM). Pending completion of an aviation agreement between the U.S. and Japanese governments later this year, and slots awarded by DOT, the flights are expected to begin service by the summer of 2020.

United has presented a proposal maximized to meet consumer demand and benefit U.S. travelers. Together, the flights from five U.S. mainland hub cities and Guam will connect Tokyo Haneda with 112 U.S. airports, representing approximately two thirds of U.S.-Tokyo demand, or more than three million annual Tokyo bookings. With United's proposed routes representing five of the six largest metropolitan areas in the U.S. mainland and a combined population of nearly 56 million, the new flights requested in this proceeding will provide consumers with more choices and more convenient options when selecting Tokyo Haneda for their travel plans.

"If awarded by the DOT, these new nonstop flights would expand United's best-in-class Japan route network to better meet demand from U.S. consumers and businesses," said United Airlines President Scott Kirby. "Tokyo is a hub of 21st century global commerce and innovation and one of the world's most popular tourist destinations. Today's filing demonstrates United's unparalleled commitment to helping more Americans travel between our nation and Japan's capital city. Our proposed flights to Tokyo Haneda will offer an unrivaled experience and maximize choice and convenience for our customers traveling between the United States and Tokyo for the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 and beyond."

United's proposed daily flights from Newark/New York, Los Angeles and Guam would supplement the airline's existing daily flights between those hubs and Tokyo's Narita International Airport (NRT), while United would shift existing daily nonstop Chicago, Washington D.C. and Houston flights from Tokyo Narita to Tokyo Haneda.United's application will also support American businesses and help grow the U.S. economy by offering direct flights from key business, government and cultural hubs where demand for flights to Haneda, the closest airport to central Tokyo, is the highest. With these new flights in place, United would provide Haneda service from:
  • The largest market for travel demand between the U.S. mainland and Tokyo (Los Angeles);
  • The two largest markets for travel demand between the East Coast and Tokyo (Newark/New York and Washington, D.C.);
  • The two largest markets for travel demand between the central U.S. and Tokyo (Chicago and Houston); and
  • Guam, a market with significant travel demand from a Japanese tourist base that is critical to the island's tourism industry, economy and job market.
United's proposal would help realize the full potential of these new routes for U.S. consumers and businesses by expanding United's broad-based and end-to-end network between the United States and Japan.

United's proposed flights to Haneda would allow U.S. consumers to make connections to 37 points in Japan via United's joint venture partner All Nippon Airways (ANA), strengthening United's existing comprehensive network when combined with nonstop or single-connection service from 112 U.S. airports.

United has proven its long-term commitment to Tokyo as a key gateway in Asia, serving Tokyo from 100 percent of its U.S. hubs. United also serves 31 markets in the Asia/Pacific region, more than any other U.S. carrier, and has successfully launched 11 new nonstop flights from the U.S. mainland to destinations throughout the Asia/Pacific region since 2014.United's application is in response to the U.S. DOT instituting a competitive route proceeding to allocate slot pairs, with today's application filed under DOT proceeding # DOT-OST-2019-0014. For more information about United's bid, please visit www.UnitedToHaneda.com.
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UA applies for 6x additional HND slots - UA gets EWR, ORD, IAD, LAX

Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
NRT is not a hub by any rational definition of the term.
UA still officially calls NRT a hub. I'd say it functions as a hub for UA passengers due to the NH JV, even though very few of them are connecting between UA metal.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:15 pm
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UA's application lists these priorities:

First priority - EWR, ORD, IAD
Second priority - LAX
Third priority - IAH, GUM
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by langleyoaker
UA's application lists these priorities:

First priority - EWR, ORD, IAD
Second priority - LAX
Third priority - IAH, GUM
press release has them in that same order.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by prometa
even if irrational, UA calls NRT a hub. For example, see the route map.
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UA still officially calls NRT a hub. I'd say it functions as a hub for UA passengers due to the NH JV, even though very few of them are connecting between UA metal.
Understood, but we can be more rational than UA's marketing department. NRT is a hub in name only. If NRT is a UA hub, then so are ZRH, BRU, and AKL.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:18 pm
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How does ANA's Asia network ex-HND compare to ex-NRT? In other words, will this be better or worse for connections (whether SE Asia or otherwise) if more UA flights are to HND?
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by drewguy
How does ANA's Asia network ex-HND compare to ex-NRT? In other words, will this be better or worse for connections (whether SE Asia or otherwise) if more UA flights are to HND?
Better for connections within Japan, without a doubt. For connections beyond, especially to SE Asia, far worse. See the following NH flight departure times ex-HND to destinations not served by UA:

BKK: 0010, 0050, 1100
KUL: 0005
HAN: 0855
MNL: 0935
CGK: 1020, 2255
CAN: 0925

Similar story for AA/JL.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:34 pm
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dkc192's post above is about right. HND is better for connecting to Seoul and Taipei since you can fly into GMP/TSA, but NRT tends to be better for connections to Asia, particularly secondary cities.

That said, HND may get some additional Asia flights as the remainder of the new slots are allocated, and ANA may also decide to better optimize their schedules for connections.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:34 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
NRT is not a hub by any rational definition of the term. The only UA-operated flights from NRT are to UA hubs. The only reasonable way to connect on UA flights at NRT is to/from GUM. It's not a hub.

Austin has nearly 3x the number of UA-operated flights that NRT has, and nobody would call it a hub.
by revenue and ASM, NRT is far bigger. I guess there is a reason why a polaris lounge is planned at NRT, but not at AUS or even FRA, ZRH, MUC, or BRU.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by langleyoaker
UA's application lists these priorities:

First priority - EWR, ORD, IAD
Second priority - LAX
Third priority - IAH, GUM
Interesting that ORD is on the first priority list considering one of NH's two flights from ORD is to HND.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:52 pm
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Per a press release from AA, they are applying for 2x DFW-HND, LAS-HND, and a 2nd LAX-HND.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:56 pm
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AA previously said that they would keep their existing NRT flights in place, so I assume the new HND flights are intended to be on top of their existing NRT schedule. Haven't seen any word on DL's proposed routes yet.
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Any guesses on what 6-7 cities NH will apply for? This could have an impact on UA operations if they try to schedule more non-UA hubs in addition to SEA/SJC.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by east_west
Any guesses on what 6-7 cities NH will apply for? This could have an impact on UA operations if they try to schedule more non-UA hubs in addition to SEA/SJC.
this is a complete guess, but load factors and premium demand would lead me to believe that BOS is on the list.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by dkc192
Better for connections within Japan, without a doubt. For connections beyond, especially to SE Asia, far worse. See the following NH flight departure times ex-HND to destinations not served by UA:

BKK: 0010, 0050, 1100
KUL: 0005
HAN: 0855
MNL: 0935
CGK: 1020, 2255
CAN: 0925

Similar story for AA/JL.
Yikes. Not a single reasonable connection from the typical mid-afternoon arrivals.
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Yikes. Not a single reasonable connection from the typical mid-afternoon arrivals.
Yes, so UA to HND connecting to NH to BKK just isn't going to work.
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