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United Airlines Adds Service to Tokyo, Haneda with Routes from Chicago, Los Angeles, New York/Newark and Washington, D.C.
CHICAGO, Aug. 16, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines today announced it will begin service between four of its U.S. hubs and Tokyo's Haneda International Airport, located approximately 15 minutes from downtown Tokyo. United will begin operating nonstop service between Chicago, Los Angeles, New York/Newark and Washington, D.C. and Haneda on March 28, 2020, subject to government approval. United currently offers daily nonstop service between San Francisco and Haneda. Tickets for United's new Haneda flights will be available for purchase starting Saturday, August 17.
In addition to United's new Haneda flights, Tokyo's Narita International airport will continue to be a hub for United with nonstop daily service between Narita and Denver, Guam, Honolulu, Houston, Los Angeles, New York/Newark and San Francisco. With the start of these new routes, United will no longer serve Narita from its Chicago and Washington D.C. hubs, and will shift these flights from Narita to Haneda.
"Our new service to Haneda gives our customers more choice and connections to more than 65 destinations throughout Asia. With service beginning next spring, we look forward to providing convenient service for the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020, and beyond," said Patrick Quayle, United's vice president of International Network. "United has offered nonstop service between the U.S. and Japan for more than 40 years and we are excited to expand our Japan network at Tokyo's Haneda Airport and continue to be the largest U.S. carrier to Japan."
United commends the efforts of Secretary Elaine Chao, her team at the U.S. Department of Transportation and officials at the U.S. State Department in making additional services at Tokyo Haneda a reality starting spring 2020.[/quote]
2019 HANEDA COMBINATION SERVICES
ALLOCATION PROCEEDING
DOCKET DOT-OST-2019-0014
United Airlines Adds Service to Tokyo, Haneda with Routes from Chicago, Los Angeles, New York/Newark and Washington, D.C.
CHICAGO, Aug. 16, 2019 /PRNewswire/ -- United Airlines today announced it will begin service between four of its U.S. hubs and Tokyo's Haneda International Airport, located approximately 15 minutes from downtown Tokyo. United will begin operating nonstop service between Chicago, Los Angeles, New York/Newark and Washington, D.C. and Haneda on March 28, 2020, subject to government approval. United currently offers daily nonstop service between San Francisco and Haneda. Tickets for United's new Haneda flights will be available for purchase starting Saturday, August 17.
In addition to United's new Haneda flights, Tokyo's Narita International airport will continue to be a hub for United with nonstop daily service between Narita and Denver, Guam, Honolulu, Houston, Los Angeles, New York/Newark and San Francisco. With the start of these new routes, United will no longer serve Narita from its Chicago and Washington D.C. hubs, and will shift these flights from Narita to Haneda.
"Our new service to Haneda gives our customers more choice and connections to more than 65 destinations throughout Asia. With service beginning next spring, we look forward to providing convenient service for the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020, and beyond," said Patrick Quayle, United's vice president of International Network. "United has offered nonstop service between the U.S. and Japan for more than 40 years and we are excited to expand our Japan network at Tokyo's Haneda Airport and continue to be the largest U.S. carrier to Japan."
United commends the efforts of Secretary Elaine Chao, her team at the U.S. Department of Transportation and officials at the U.S. State Department in making additional services at Tokyo Haneda a reality starting spring 2020.[/quote]
2019 HANEDA COMBINATION SERVICES
ALLOCATION PROCEEDING
DOCKET DOT-OST-2019-0014
U.S. Department of Transportation Tentatively Grants United Airlines Authority to Operate New Service to Tokyo Haneda
New slots from four hubs to Haneda Airport will expand United's best-in-class Japan route network to better meet demand from U.S. consumers and businesses
CHICAGO, May 16, 2019
-- The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) today announced that United Airlines was tentatively granted a total of four daily nonstop flights to Tokyo Haneda Airport (HND). The slots will be allocated for flights from United's hubs at Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR), Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD), Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD) and Los Angeles International Airport (LAX). Pending completion of an aviation agreement between the U.S. and Japanese governments later this year, the flights are expected to begin service by the summer of 2020.
"As the largest U.S. carrier to Asia, we are excited to see we were granted additional slots to Haneda to help more Americans travel between our nation and Japan's capital city, which will offer our customers an unparalleled experience while maximizing choice," said United Airlines President Scott Kirby. "We would like to thank the U.S. Department of Transportation for its work in reviewing our proposal and advocating for what is best for the American public and for our economy. We also recognize the efforts of the U.S. State Department's work with the DOT to enable additional service at Haneda."
Together, the flights from these U.S. mainland hub cities will connect Tokyo Haneda with:
Only United has committed to providing service to both Tokyo airports from regions across the United States. United has proven its long-term commitment to Tokyo as a key gateway in Asia, serving Tokyo from all seven of its U.S. mainland hubs. United also serves 31 markets in the Asia/Pacific region, more than any other U.S. carrier, and has successfully launched 11 new nonstop flights from the U.S. mainland to destinations throughout the Asia/Pacific region since 2014.
New slots from four hubs to Haneda Airport will expand United's best-in-class Japan route network to better meet demand from U.S. consumers and businesses
CHICAGO, May 16, 2019
-- The U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) today announced that United Airlines was tentatively granted a total of four daily nonstop flights to Tokyo Haneda Airport (HND). The slots will be allocated for flights from United's hubs at Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR), Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD), Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD) and Los Angeles International Airport (LAX). Pending completion of an aviation agreement between the U.S. and Japanese governments later this year, the flights are expected to begin service by the summer of 2020.
"As the largest U.S. carrier to Asia, we are excited to see we were granted additional slots to Haneda to help more Americans travel between our nation and Japan's capital city, which will offer our customers an unparalleled experience while maximizing choice," said United Airlines President Scott Kirby. "We would like to thank the U.S. Department of Transportation for its work in reviewing our proposal and advocating for what is best for the American public and for our economy. We also recognize the efforts of the U.S. State Department's work with the DOT to enable additional service at Haneda."
Together, the flights from these U.S. mainland hub cities will connect Tokyo Haneda with:
- The U.S.'s largest metropolitan area and center of finance and commerce, Newark/New York;
- The most important logistics and transportation hub in the Midwest, Chicago;
- The seat of the U.S. federal government, Washington, D.C.; and
- Additional U.S. carrier service in the largest U.S. mainland - Tokyo market at Los Angeles.
Only United has committed to providing service to both Tokyo airports from regions across the United States. United has proven its long-term commitment to Tokyo as a key gateway in Asia, serving Tokyo from all seven of its U.S. mainland hubs. United also serves 31 markets in the Asia/Pacific region, more than any other U.S. carrier, and has successfully launched 11 new nonstop flights from the U.S. mainland to destinations throughout the Asia/Pacific region since 2014.
United Applies to Serve Tokyo Haneda from Six Leading U.S. Hubs Where Demand Is Highest
Proposed daily nonstop flights from hubs at Newark Liberty, Chicago O'Hare, Washington Dulles, Los Angeles International, Houston George Bush and Guam will maximize choice and convenience for U.S. consumers and businesses
CHICAGO, Feb. 21, 2019
-- United Airlines announced today it has filed an application with the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) for a total of six daily nonstop flights to Tokyo Haneda Airport (HND) from Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR), Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD), Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD), Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), Houston George Bush Intercontinental Airport (IAH) and Guam's A.B. Won Pat International Airport (GUM). Pending completion of an aviation agreement between the U.S. and Japanese governments later this year, and slots awarded by DOT, the flights are expected to begin service by the summer of 2020.
United has presented a proposal maximized to meet consumer demand and benefit U.S. travelers. Together, the flights from five U.S. mainland hub cities and Guam will connect Tokyo Haneda with 112 U.S. airports, representing approximately two thirds of U.S.-Tokyo demand, or more than three million annual Tokyo bookings. With United's proposed routes representing five of the six largest metropolitan areas in the U.S. mainland and a combined population of nearly 56 million, the new flights requested in this proceeding will provide consumers with more choices and more convenient options when selecting Tokyo Haneda for their travel plans.
"If awarded by the DOT, these new nonstop flights would expand United's best-in-class Japan route network to better meet demand from U.S. consumers and businesses," said United Airlines President Scott Kirby. "Tokyo is a hub of 21st century global commerce and innovation and one of the world's most popular tourist destinations. Today's filing demonstrates United's unparalleled commitment to helping more Americans travel between our nation and Japan's capital city. Our proposed flights to Tokyo Haneda will offer an unrivaled experience and maximize choice and convenience for our customers traveling between the United States and Tokyo for the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 and beyond."
United's proposed daily flights from Newark/New York, Los Angeles and Guam would supplement the airline's existing daily flights between those hubs and Tokyo's Narita International Airport (NRT), while United would shift existing daily nonstop Chicago, Washington D.C. and Houston flights from Tokyo Narita to Tokyo Haneda.United's application will also support American businesses and help grow the U.S. economy by offering direct flights from key business, government and cultural hubs where demand for flights to Haneda, the closest airport to central Tokyo, is the highest. With these new flights in place, United would provide Haneda service from:
United's proposed flights to Haneda would allow U.S. consumers to make connections to 37 points in Japan via United's joint venture partner All Nippon Airways (ANA), strengthening United's existing comprehensive network when combined with nonstop or single-connection service from 112 U.S. airports.
United has proven its long-term commitment to Tokyo as a key gateway in Asia, serving Tokyo from 100 percent of its U.S. hubs. United also serves 31 markets in the Asia/Pacific region, more than any other U.S. carrier, and has successfully launched 11 new nonstop flights from the U.S. mainland to destinations throughout the Asia/Pacific region since 2014.United's application is in response to the U.S. DOT instituting a competitive route proceeding to allocate slot pairs, with today's application filed under DOT proceeding # DOT-OST-2019-0014. For more information about United's bid, please visit www.UnitedToHaneda.com.
Proposed daily nonstop flights from hubs at Newark Liberty, Chicago O'Hare, Washington Dulles, Los Angeles International, Houston George Bush and Guam will maximize choice and convenience for U.S. consumers and businesses
CHICAGO, Feb. 21, 2019
-- United Airlines announced today it has filed an application with the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) for a total of six daily nonstop flights to Tokyo Haneda Airport (HND) from Newark Liberty International Airport (EWR), Chicago O'Hare International Airport (ORD), Washington Dulles International Airport (IAD), Los Angeles International Airport (LAX), Houston George Bush Intercontinental Airport (IAH) and Guam's A.B. Won Pat International Airport (GUM). Pending completion of an aviation agreement between the U.S. and Japanese governments later this year, and slots awarded by DOT, the flights are expected to begin service by the summer of 2020.
United has presented a proposal maximized to meet consumer demand and benefit U.S. travelers. Together, the flights from five U.S. mainland hub cities and Guam will connect Tokyo Haneda with 112 U.S. airports, representing approximately two thirds of U.S.-Tokyo demand, or more than three million annual Tokyo bookings. With United's proposed routes representing five of the six largest metropolitan areas in the U.S. mainland and a combined population of nearly 56 million, the new flights requested in this proceeding will provide consumers with more choices and more convenient options when selecting Tokyo Haneda for their travel plans.
"If awarded by the DOT, these new nonstop flights would expand United's best-in-class Japan route network to better meet demand from U.S. consumers and businesses," said United Airlines President Scott Kirby. "Tokyo is a hub of 21st century global commerce and innovation and one of the world's most popular tourist destinations. Today's filing demonstrates United's unparalleled commitment to helping more Americans travel between our nation and Japan's capital city. Our proposed flights to Tokyo Haneda will offer an unrivaled experience and maximize choice and convenience for our customers traveling between the United States and Tokyo for the Olympic Games Tokyo 2020 and beyond."
United's proposed daily flights from Newark/New York, Los Angeles and Guam would supplement the airline's existing daily flights between those hubs and Tokyo's Narita International Airport (NRT), while United would shift existing daily nonstop Chicago, Washington D.C. and Houston flights from Tokyo Narita to Tokyo Haneda.United's application will also support American businesses and help grow the U.S. economy by offering direct flights from key business, government and cultural hubs where demand for flights to Haneda, the closest airport to central Tokyo, is the highest. With these new flights in place, United would provide Haneda service from:
- The largest market for travel demand between the U.S. mainland and Tokyo (Los Angeles);
- The two largest markets for travel demand between the East Coast and Tokyo (Newark/New York and Washington, D.C.);
- The two largest markets for travel demand between the central U.S. and Tokyo (Chicago and Houston); and
- Guam, a market with significant travel demand from a Japanese tourist base that is critical to the island's tourism industry, economy and job market.
United's proposed flights to Haneda would allow U.S. consumers to make connections to 37 points in Japan via United's joint venture partner All Nippon Airways (ANA), strengthening United's existing comprehensive network when combined with nonstop or single-connection service from 112 U.S. airports.
United has proven its long-term commitment to Tokyo as a key gateway in Asia, serving Tokyo from 100 percent of its U.S. hubs. United also serves 31 markets in the Asia/Pacific region, more than any other U.S. carrier, and has successfully launched 11 new nonstop flights from the U.S. mainland to destinations throughout the Asia/Pacific region since 2014.United's application is in response to the U.S. DOT instituting a competitive route proceeding to allocate slot pairs, with today's application filed under DOT proceeding # DOT-OST-2019-0014. For more information about United's bid, please visit www.UnitedToHaneda.com.
UA applies for 6x additional HND slots - UA gets EWR, ORD, IAD, LAX
Feb 21, 2019, 3:49 pm
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HND is an origin/destination airport. For connections, ICN is now in the pole position. I did some research on DL/KE last week, and was surprised to learn about the extent of their combined network; KE flies to 27 airports in China alone!
Feb 21, 2019, 3:58 pm
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Now that all the applications are in, I can envision the following awards:
UA: EWR new, ORD, IAD (missing out on LAX new, IAH, GUM new)
AA: LAX, DFW #1 , DFW #2 (allows AA to exit NRT entirely, missing out on LAS)
DL: ATL, SEA, DTW, PDX, HNL (allows DL to exit NRT entirely, missing out on HNL #2 )
HA: HNL new (missing out on HNL #2 and #3 ; in reality, #3 and #4 given existing HND service)
Objectively, I think United has the strongest application, because its plan (in its entirety) actually results in new service to multiple gateways; in all, three new widebody flights, 2 of which are longhauls to massive O&D markets (EWR, LAX). The balance and flight timing between NH and UA at North American hubs is also quite good, but it won't come to fruition yet because doing so would, in all likelihood, confer an unfair advantage to United. Still, United is proposing the most new capacity and, at minimum, equally good connectivity plus larger local markets than other applicants.
So, again, I suspect Delta will probably get the lion's share of slots here, as the DOT has found Delta's lack of an immunized partner in the Tokyo market persuasive in awarding slots in the past. This award lets them finally kill off the NRT operation, along with SIN/MNL interport service, which will flow over ICN on KE metal. For all who bemoan United's reduction of NRT service as compared to the 'good old days', this application confirms United remains committed to Narita, in addition to HND, and one need only look down the concourse at DL to see what's become of the former NW hub.
UA: EWR new, ORD, IAD (missing out on LAX new, IAH, GUM new)
AA: LAX, DFW #1 , DFW #2 (allows AA to exit NRT entirely, missing out on LAS)
DL: ATL, SEA, DTW, PDX, HNL (allows DL to exit NRT entirely, missing out on HNL #2 )
HA: HNL new (missing out on HNL #2 and #3 ; in reality, #3 and #4 given existing HND service)
Objectively, I think United has the strongest application, because its plan (in its entirety) actually results in new service to multiple gateways; in all, three new widebody flights, 2 of which are longhauls to massive O&D markets (EWR, LAX). The balance and flight timing between NH and UA at North American hubs is also quite good, but it won't come to fruition yet because doing so would, in all likelihood, confer an unfair advantage to United. Still, United is proposing the most new capacity and, at minimum, equally good connectivity plus larger local markets than other applicants.
So, again, I suspect Delta will probably get the lion's share of slots here, as the DOT has found Delta's lack of an immunized partner in the Tokyo market persuasive in awarding slots in the past. This award lets them finally kill off the NRT operation, along with SIN/MNL interport service, which will flow over ICN on KE metal. For all who bemoan United's reduction of NRT service as compared to the 'good old days', this application confirms United remains committed to Narita, in addition to HND, and one need only look down the concourse at DL to see what's become of the former NW hub.
Feb 21, 2019, 4:01 pm
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They may adjust the schedule a bit, to allow for onward Intl connections from HND if they get enough slots awarded to make sense I guess...
Feb 21, 2019, 4:02 pm
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It is much more likely that UA and NH will adjust their respective HND schedules to facilitate connections to and from Asia.
Feb 21, 2019, 4:10 pm
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I think this shows that they want NH to fly the bulk of the connecting traffic (IAD/ORD/IAH-NRT) and UA to fly the presumably higher yielding O&D (or US-Japan) traffic to HND. Although NH planes are fairly low density.
Feb 21, 2019, 4:10 pm
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Feb 21, 2019, 4:12 pm
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I would assume HND would be used more for secondary Japan destinations, for those looking to make connections at all. NRT would still maintain the schedule for Intl connections.
They may adjust the schedule a bit, to allow for onward Intl connections from HND if they get enough slots awarded to make sense I guess...
They may adjust the schedule a bit, to allow for onward Intl connections from HND if they get enough slots awarded to make sense I guess...
Feb 21, 2019, 4:44 pm
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At this point, but there are still three more chunks in the HND slot allocation/rearrangements: US-Japan slots for Japanese carriers, non-US international slots, and the periodic domestic allocations. Things could change a bit.
Feb 21, 2019, 5:34 pm
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How does HND compare to NRT in terms of lounges and airport facilities?
It's my understanding that HND is better in terms of getting into Tokyo (there's a monorail you can stay on that gets you to the fish market in under an hour). However, I really enjoyed using the NH "signature" lounge at NRT with the sushi and ramen bar.
It's my understanding that HND is better in terms of getting into Tokyo (there's a monorail you can stay on that gets you to the fish market in under an hour). However, I really enjoyed using the NH "signature" lounge at NRT with the sushi and ramen bar.
Feb 21, 2019, 6:00 pm
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KE @ ICN is not banked properly to provide the onward service that DL needs at least for central/east USA. Try generating routings from ATL, BOS, DTW via ICN to Japan, HKG, TPE, Mainland China, and you will be stuck with 6hr+ layovers (or overnight for some connections) if you want to stay on KE/DL metal. The onward connections are timed for the midnight KL departure from JFK and the local O&D market.
Let's hope that UA is unsuccessful in pulling flights from NRT to HND...
Let's hope so, because BOS would be a prime example of the non-hub fliers whose choices would be cut from 3 (EWR/IAD/ORD) to 1 (EWR)...
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Feb 21, 2019, 6:15 pm
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So, HND lounges are kinda weak, IMO... very utilitarian ANA lounges.
The bigger thing that I believe this addresses is that NRT doesn't really have many domestic flights at all. HND on the other hand is generally considered the domestic airport with some international. As such, getting anywhere other than Tokyo requires bussing between the airports.
As someone who has to make that transit multiple times per year, I really would love to see UA get some extra HND slots!
The bigger thing that I believe this addresses is that NRT doesn't really have many domestic flights at all. HND on the other hand is generally considered the domestic airport with some international. As such, getting anywhere other than Tokyo requires bussing between the airports.
As someone who has to make that transit multiple times per year, I really would love to see UA get some extra HND slots!
Feb 21, 2019, 6:45 pm
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19 requests overall for 12 slots, so seven have to be cut from the following:
AA: DFW(2x)/LAS(?)/LAX, DL: ATL/DTW/HNL(2x)/PDX/SEA, UA: ORD/GUM/IAH/LAX/EWR/IAD, HA: HNL(3x)
I think DL will get almost everything it wants due to the lack of a JV, but I can't see them getting a second HNL flight. I also think HA will only get one frequency to HNL because it is trying to form a JV with JL. I doubt AA gets double DFW, probably only one. LAS is very interesting because they don't have a hub at LAS and this flight is probably the most likely to fail and result in AA asking to switch cities. However, LAS doesn't have any Japan flights at the moment, so the DOT could be persuaded to allow it. I think UA will definitely miss out on two flights, which will be IAH and GUM, and possibly LAX depending on whether or not LAS is granted an AA flight.
This will be interesting given that each NH/JL will also (presumably) receive 6 slots each. Currently, NH offers NRT-ORD/HNL(2x)/IAH/LAX(2x)/JFK/SFO/SJC/SEA/IAD. I think the top 6 contenders for moving are LAX(1x)/SEA/HNL(2x)/IAH/IAD. JL's current lineup is NRT-BOS/ORD/DFW/GUM(2x)/HNL(4x)/LAX/JFK/SAN/SEA, and I think ORD/HNL(2x)/DFW/SEA/LAX are the most likely. It's a balance of moving flights where the competition is and complementing JV partner service.
NH/UA have a JV for US-Japan. While AA/JL do as well, JL is also trying to get a JV with HA for Hawaii-Japan, so maybe AA/JL is only for Mainland-Japan?
AA: DFW(2x)/LAS(?)/LAX, DL: ATL/DTW/HNL(2x)/PDX/SEA, UA: ORD/GUM/IAH/LAX/EWR/IAD, HA: HNL(3x)
I think DL will get almost everything it wants due to the lack of a JV, but I can't see them getting a second HNL flight. I also think HA will only get one frequency to HNL because it is trying to form a JV with JL. I doubt AA gets double DFW, probably only one. LAS is very interesting because they don't have a hub at LAS and this flight is probably the most likely to fail and result in AA asking to switch cities. However, LAS doesn't have any Japan flights at the moment, so the DOT could be persuaded to allow it. I think UA will definitely miss out on two flights, which will be IAH and GUM, and possibly LAX depending on whether or not LAS is granted an AA flight.
This will be interesting given that each NH/JL will also (presumably) receive 6 slots each. Currently, NH offers NRT-ORD/HNL(2x)/IAH/LAX(2x)/JFK/SFO/SJC/SEA/IAD. I think the top 6 contenders for moving are LAX(1x)/SEA/HNL(2x)/IAH/IAD. JL's current lineup is NRT-BOS/ORD/DFW/GUM(2x)/HNL(4x)/LAX/JFK/SAN/SEA, and I think ORD/HNL(2x)/DFW/SEA/LAX are the most likely. It's a balance of moving flights where the competition is and complementing JV partner service.
NH/UA have a JV for US-Japan. While AA/JL do as well, JL is also trying to get a JV with HA for Hawaii-Japan, so maybe AA/JL is only for Mainland-Japan?
Feb 21, 2019, 6:56 pm
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The int'l lounge(s) is (are? I forget) fine. Domestic NH lounges, on the other hand, are clean but far more spartan in terms of food and drink than UA domestic lounges. But they do allow you to bring in outside food.
Feb 21, 2019, 6:57 pm
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So, HND lounges are kinda weak, IMO... very utilitarian ANA lounges.
The bigger thing that I believe this addresses is that NRT doesn't really have many domestic flights at all. HND on the other hand is generally considered the domestic airport with some international. As such, getting anywhere other than Tokyo requires bussing between the airports.
As someone who has to make that transit multiple times per year, I really would love to see UA get some extra HND slots!
The bigger thing that I believe this addresses is that NRT doesn't really have many domestic flights at all. HND on the other hand is generally considered the domestic airport with some international. As such, getting anywhere other than Tokyo requires bussing between the airports.
As someone who has to make that transit multiple times per year, I really would love to see UA get some extra HND slots!