Feb 20, 2019, 2:39 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
Ferry flights -- a flight operated to get an aircraft from one location to another for company reasons -- with no commercial passengers. Besides the flight crew, there may be other airline personnel but no paying passengers. With no commercial passengers, there is no need for flight attendants.
-- repositioning due to weather / irrops
-- repositioning after a charter flight
-- repositioning due to weather / irrops
-- repositioning after a charter flight
-- flying to/from a maintenance center
-- delivery of new aircraft
UA/UX ferry flights -- What, Why, Examples, .... [Consolidated]
Mar 13, 2019, 5:24 pm
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Yup. Pretty common for ferry flights to be operated under that flight number.
Code:
2755/12MAR
P IAH/OUT 213P L00.28 EST OFF 229PFLIGHT PREPARATION
P IAH/OFF 227P
P SFO/ON 355P
P SFO/IN 413P L00.38 ‡
D FCF/FERRY FLIGHT NO REVENUE CUSTOMERS
D HDQ/IAH SFO PROT UNDER GG CN2 X55
SKED IAH ORIG 145P GTD C7 SHIP 2138
SFO 335P TERM GTA 89
Mar 13, 2019, 6:48 pm
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Wow.. replacing a 7M9 by grabbing a spare 77W from another hub... an interesting flavor of desperate scramble. At least the OGG pax get to ride in style!
Mar 14, 2019, 10:40 am
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Pretend for a second that we’re not all aviation-knowing or United AvGeeks....what’s the purpose of a ferry flight, when you can easily put a hundred people on there & make it a revenue flight? Tough to believe, but not everyone knows the industry inside & out & all its quirks. Some of us like asking simple questions w/o getting flamed..
Mar 14, 2019, 10:48 am
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They would likely have operated it as a revenue segment if they had an IAH-SFO cancelation, but otherwise there likely wasn't enough organic demand to justify it.
Mar 14, 2019, 11:10 am
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But a 773 makes sense if they need to ferry two or three MAX worth of pax @:-)
Mar 14, 2019, 11:21 am
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I am pretty sure someone in operations had done their homework in lining up planes and, if necessary, people to operate the flight. After all, the FAA staffing minimum is drastically different for 7M9 and 773.
Mar 14, 2019, 1:37 pm
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This. I believe OGG had three MAX 9 flights a day to the mainland (1xSFO, 2xLAX). Since none of them are going to operate, unless UA gets a lot of extra capacity on the route, PAX are going to be stranded. A 773 is the most effective way of addressing. Once again, UA shows that (unlike contrary opinion that is so popular on this board) it is not clueless.
Mar 14, 2019, 2:47 pm
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Mar 14, 2019, 3:43 pm
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It does involve the need for FAA authorization, whereas, in some other countries, only revenue flights are forbidden and operators do not have to seek special authorization to conduct these flights.
Jun 2, 2019, 6:20 pm
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I figured that might be an easy question to answer for you so I am asking here:
I noticed a flight today UA2782 FRA-EWR on a 764 being way delayed. What kind of flight is that as the only flight from FRA to EWR I know of is UA961 on a 78J. Also the flight number kind of confuses me.
I noticed a flight today UA2782 FRA-EWR on a 764 being way delayed. What kind of flight is that as the only flight from FRA to EWR I know of is UA961 on a 78J. Also the flight number kind of confuses me.
Jun 2, 2019, 7:08 pm
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I figured that might be an easy question to answer for you so I am asking here:
I noticed a flight today UA2782 FRA-EWR on a 764 being way delayed. What kind of flight is that as the only flight from FRA to EWR I know of is UA961 on a 78J. Also the flight number kind of confuses me.
I noticed a flight today UA2782 FRA-EWR on a 764 being way delayed. What kind of flight is that as the only flight from FRA to EWR I know of is UA961 on a 78J. Also the flight number kind of confuses me.
Jun 2, 2019, 7:27 pm
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Numbers in that range are often charters or extra sections for cancelled flights.