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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:21 am
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This is the archive thread, the active thread is Lufthansa GPUs Go Electronic (How to use, will it clear?, issues w/flight credit,...)

For general information on upgrading ANA or Lufthansa flights with a GPU, see Upgrading Flights Operated by ANA or Lufthansa. You actually request the upgrade through the online form, here: Request a GPU for a Select Partner Airline.

Per United web support, you only need to fill in the required* info.

**The LH flight you are upgrading must be an LH flight, not a UA codeshare flight. If you have a UA codeshare flight, you can call websupport and they will (put you on hold and] change your itinerary to one with an LH flight#.

Note that UA websupport might give you a new ticket # when you do the above, but if the original ticket # was 016 UA stock, it will remain so, and thus you will still be earning RDMs at the UA rate (11x for a 1K), not the *A rate. In case of a $6000 biz fare for LAX-FRA that you are trying to upgrade to F for example, as a 1K you would earn 66,000 UA RDM if booked as a UA flight. And even though after booking you get them to change the UA flight # from a UA codeshare flight to an LH flight, the 016 ticket stock sticks, and you earn 66,000 RDMs.

(FYI, had the ticket stock been an LH stock, the RDM's earned would be 5790 miles x 150% = 8685 RDMs. Big difference)

Note that sometimes the online upgrading does not work, and you may get an error message to call an 877 number, which is now defunct but still resides on .bomb...Ignore it and just call web support. They might put you on hold while they call LH but they will get the job done.

Eligible Economy Fares to Apply a GPU

Upgradeable to business fares include U/H/Q the lowest eligible economy fares. G&E the two top premium economy fares and Y/B/M the most expensive economy fares. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24219165-post205.html)
While UA has not changed their T&Cs, LH appears to have expanded the potential fare classes
Originally Posted by oliver2002
For C->F upgrade, J, D, C fares are eligible, Z and P fares are not.
Originally Posted by andywaw
Effective April 20th, 2018, all Lufthansa revenue Business Class fares, including P and Z, are eligible to be upgraded to First Class using miles or eVouchers. ...
LH booking class P, Z upgreadable for miles and eVouchers
Appears this also applies to use of UA GPUs IF booked as native flight number on LH or UA ticket stock.
Presently UA is not converting codeshare to native flight numbers, as required for this process, if P or Z fare
From April to September 2018 it was possible to confirm and waitlist P ,Z-class LH flights with a GPU. Confirming and waitlisting is no now longer possible, but previously waitlisted segments will continue to clear as/if available.

Checking for Upgrade Availability

Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too. (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24861289-post342.html)

In case of upgrade clearing but eticket refresh problems:

Originally Posted by oliver2002
Both longhaul LH segments cleared into I after being on waitlist . The first didnt get stickered, so the DCS ( amadeus altea ) rejected online and agent checkin . The eticket helpdesk had to manually update the first coupon for the DCS to accept the coupon. My seat in C was safe, since the PNR was updated correctly, just the ticket was not updated completely to the satisfaction of the DCS. Everyone looking at the booking agreed the upgrade was legit, so you will not be denied boarding or downgraded, just budget enough time
Originally Posted by oliver2002
The LH GA must have called the eticket helpdesk and pointed out the * SSR remark in your reservation that shows an upgrade was applied and the e-ticket just needed a fix/sticker. See my experience above.
Checking for availability prior to calling
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Upgrades to E, C and F come from the N, I and O fare bucket, but its a subset, which theoretically is not the same as the award subset. If awards are available it is a strong indication the upgrade is available too.
Use ANA or even united.com to see availability.

To check if C/F upgrades may open up, ask in this thread: Determining LH Y/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]

Regarding ticket stock, Oliver reports:
Originally Posted by oliver2002
Any ticket stock will do.
Each LH flight segment requires a separate GPU
A single GPU can be used to only upgrade a single LH flight segment, And that GPU cannot be extended to include another LH flight segment or another UA flight segment.


Problems getting mileage credit for upgraded LH segments

Numerous reports of denial of mileage credits (RDMs, PQMs, PQSs, PQDs) for upgraded tickets. This issue is probably due to LH uses the same fare bucket for mileage awards and upgrades. It seems patience, persistence, and documentation of the originally paid fare are needed to get credit.

You probably won't get credit by simply submitting the online form or asking a CSR to do so for you. A CSR needs to submit a System Issue Form, together with the mileage request, explaining that you flew in I class, but you paid for a mileage-earning booking class.

T-10

While the original system did not allow the upgrade waitlist to carry on past t-10 hours, the have been multiple reports that this is no longer the case. If not cleared in advance - the upgrade wait-list will last all the way until the door closing. UA has not updated the text on the LH GPU upgrades to reflect this change.

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Old Dec 16, 2014, 7:22 am
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Does changing to a 'pure LH Flight Number' change my ticket from 016 (UA) to 022 (LH)?
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 7:26 am
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Originally Posted by negrrrito
Does changing to a 'pure LH Flight Number' change my ticket from 016 (UA) to 022 (LH)?
Not necessarily - just depends if any individual flight has a codeshare or not

I had an AA ticket last week that had a BA metal/flight # segment, an AA metal/flight # segment, and BA metal/AA flight # segment all on it, just depends how it's ticketed.
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 7:31 am
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Thank you for the quick reply. I meant that if a ticket is already 016, does going through the upgrade process change the ticket to 022? Hard to believe it would, but just want to make sure.
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by SFOTerry
Has anyone tried to upgrade a V fare at the airport with a paper cert issued before Dec 10? Results? Thanks.
Originally Posted by IADFlyer123
Once, MUC to BOM during a 5 hour layover in Munich. This was in October last year.
Well, thanks, but what I meant was has anyone tried to UG a V fare at the airport AFTER Dec 10 with a paper cert that already has the itinerary info (passenger, date, flight #, and confirmation code)?
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 11:58 am
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Originally Posted by SFOTerry
Well, thanks, but what I meant was has anyone tried to UG a V fare at the airport AFTER Dec 10 with a paper cert that already has the itinerary info (passenger, date, flight #, and confirmation code)?
Sorry had misunderstood that!
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by negrrrito
Thank you for the quick reply. I meant that if a ticket is already 016, does going through the upgrade process change the ticket to 022? Hard to believe it would, but just want to make sure.
Can't say for certain, but I highly doubt that it would
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 1:08 pm
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LH just stickers the virtual coupon, it can be 016 or 220 or even 001 for that matter
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Old Dec 16, 2014, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by SFOTerry
Has anyone tried to upgrade a V fare at the airport with a paper cert issued before Dec 10? Results? Thanks.
In the past yes. Numerous times. The certs say that they are valid for V in the sense that they do not list V as a barred bucket.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 5:39 am
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I apologize in advance for the noob question, but I've never had the opportunity to try to apply a GPU to an LH flight.

I have a codeshare flight in March from ORD to FRA on an LH 747-8 (UA8837, LH431) , booked on 016 stock. My fare class is Z. Is this eligible for a GPU upgrade from business class to first class? If so, am I correct in understanding that I have to call in to request the upgrade and that I can't do it online?
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by mdobbins
I apologize in advance for the noob question, but I've never had the opportunity to try to apply a GPU to an LH flight.

I have a codeshare flight in March from ORD to FRA on an LH 747-8 (UA8837, LH431) , booked on 016 stock. My fare class is Z. Is this eligible for a GPU upgrade from business class to first class? If so, am I correct in understanding that I have to call in to request the upgrade and that I can't do it online?
Unfortunately Z is not eligible. See below: The non-eligible fare classes are: L, T, X, I, R, N, S, W, Z, P, K, O, ID, AD, IP and V. They only allow C and D
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by IADFlyer123
Unfortunately Z is not eligible. See below: The non-eligible fare classes are: L, T, X, I, R, N, S, W, Z, P, K, O, ID, AD, IP and V. They only allow C and D
Thank you! What wasn't clear in my mind was the fare classes - whether those were United fare classes or LH fare classes.

I appreciate the help.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by mdobbins
Thank you! What wasn't clear in my mind was the fare classes - whether those were United fare classes or LH fare classes.

I appreciate the help.
No worries. Glad to help. Just FYI, UA would not allow you to upgrade a Z and P fare to Global First on UA Metal using GPU's either. Just found this out yesterday
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by 1flux
Yes, but if you're booked on a UA codeshare, (1) you have to call United MP (which likely means waiting a long time to be connected to an agent) instead of just trying the upgrade online, and (2) they have to convert the flight to a pure LH flight number.
I had to go through this process last night by calling the Star Alliance desk. It was relatively painless once I gave the agent the PNR and she converted the codeshare flight to the appropriate LH flight number. She did have to put me on hold and call Lufthansa to get everything to work out, but she was good about checking back in with me while I was on hold to let me know things were progressing.

My wait time for an agent was only a few seconds, but due to the computer snags it took about a half hour to get straight and get me on the waitlist.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 8:32 am
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Originally Posted by IADFlyer123
Unfortunately Z is not eligible. See below: The non-eligible fare classes are: L, T, X, I, R, N, S, W, Z, P, K, O, ID, AD, IP and V. They only allow C and D
And J of course.
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Old Dec 17, 2014, 9:33 am
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Have a V fare on a LH TATL this coming Friday, saved to GPUs for the occasion. Was just about to order the paper certs when the change was announced, although they forgot to tell us that V fare did not qualify... Talked the Star Alliance desk, $2000 to upgrade my V fare to a B fare which would be eligible for upgrade.

Been burnt too many times by airlines, but this one stings a bit extra since it is for a personal trip as opposed to a business trip.
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