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astonmartinv8 Feb 9, 19 12:57 am

SYD-LAX-SYD New Polaris
 
Hi,

I am trying to find out if / when the new all-aisle Polaris Business is coming to the SYD-LAX-SYD route? Can anyone assist?

Thanks,

Marcus.

WineCountryUA Feb 9, 19 1:35 am


Originally Posted by astonmartinv8 (Post 30756585)
... SYD-LAX-SYD route? ...

Presently that route is flown by 787-9 which appear to be late in the retrofit plans -- 2020?

phkc070408 Feb 9, 19 5:37 am

Wine is correct. The 787-9 was the last fleet to arrive with non-Polaris seats. It only makes sense that they would be the last to get the new seats and this is what the plan appears to be. It's a real shame because these have the longest range of any of UA's fleet and they are used for the longest routes.

From what I last read, the plan was to start the 787s in Q4 of 2019. I take that as the first aircraft can enter MOD on 31DEC19. UA's goal is to have all MODS complete by the end of 2020, but I think that's wishful thinking and suspect Q2-Q3 of 2021 is more realistic.

astonmartinv8 Feb 9, 19 12:36 pm

Thanks for information.

I wonder why Sydney did not get 787-10?

WineCountryUA Feb 9, 19 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by astonmartinv8 (Post 30758293)
Thanks for information.

I wonder why Sydney did not get 787-10?

787-10 does not have the flight range, no go for USA-Australia (SYD/MEL)
787-9 has 1,400 mile longer flight range

astonmartinv8 Feb 9, 19 1:06 pm


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 30758326)
787-10 does not have the flight range, no go for USA-Australia (SYD/MEL)
787-9 has 1,400 mile longer flight range

Ah I see, thank you.

mrt88 Apr 2, 19 3:34 pm

So Delta is now flying their new J to Australia: https://news.delta.com/delta-launche...stralia-and-us

Wonder if this will accelerate UA's plans w.r.t. Polaris on the 787-9?

transportprof Apr 2, 19 3:59 pm


Originally Posted by mrt88 (Post 30957868)
So Delta is now flying their new J to Australia: https://news.delta.com/delta-launche...stralia-and-us


Wonder if this will accelerate UA's plans w.r.t. Polaris on the 787-9?

I, for one, doubt that there will be any change to United's Polaris deployment schedule for the 787 because of DL's new seating.

764toHI Apr 3, 19 9:33 am

I think you're more likely to see a 772 or 77W with the new Polaris seats as a one-off aircraft sub before a retrofitted 789 is deployed on US-Australia.


Originally Posted by mrt88 (Post 30957868)
So Delta is now flying their new J to Australia: https://news.delta.com/delta-launche...stralia-and-us

Wonder if this will accelerate UA's plans w.r.t. Polaris on the 787-9?


evanroberts Apr 3, 19 9:42 am

It's odd that AKL is getting the new Polaris regularly, now gets Premium Plus, but the presumably higher yield Australian ports get the old seats.

Kacee Apr 3, 19 9:42 am


Originally Posted by evanroberts (Post 30960490)
It's odd that AKL is getting the new Polaris regularly, now gets Premium Plus, but the presumably higher yield Australian ports get the old seats.

UA doesn't fly 77Ws from LAX. And UA needs for operational reasons to be consistent with aircraft type to SYD, so both LAX and SFO utilize the 789.

And I'm not sure AKL isn't equivalent yielding. There is no real competition on that route (just JV partner NZ). I understand J fares are very consistently $8k plus. By contrast, you have DL, QF, and VA all competing into SYD.

Originally Posted by mrt88 (Post 30957868)
Wonder if this will accelerate UA's plans w.r.t. Polaris on the 787-9?

No.

evanroberts Apr 3, 19 9:46 am

Good points, thanks

Kacee Apr 3, 19 10:03 am


Originally Posted by evanroberts (Post 30960514)
Good points, thanks

I think many of us felt that was a surprising aircraft assignment when first announced, but UA has stuck with it, which suggests it's working for them.

justsawaufo Apr 3, 19 10:45 am

SFO-AKL runs about 5.5K for J and you get the new Polaris.

Kacee Apr 3, 19 10:52 am


Originally Posted by justsawaufo (Post 30960779)
SFO-AKL runs about 5.5K for J and you get the new Polaris.

It really depends on when you want to go. SYD is not particularly expensive in July, either.


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