739 cos<->den
#16
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It's not about COS-DEN, its about COS-XYZ, and XYZ-COS. Just happy to see some progress. DEN is just a connection, but I'm happy we are on the radar again post 9/11.
#17
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Interesting to see that the original 11:36a COS->DEN departure has already been "down-gauged" from 739 to 319 - at least on 8 June (still holding as 739 on 14 June)...
#18
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I thought UA outsourced these shorter flights to partner airlines doing business as United Express. As far as I know, 739 would be crewed by UA, so I wonder what's happening to those UA express planes/crews/contracts.
#19
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Many stations, including COS, are served by a mixture of mainline and Express flights. UA's contracts with its Express carriers give it a great deal of flexibility. If they replace a regional jet flight with a mainline flight, it's a good bet that the regional plane will be reallocated elsewhere.
#20
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#21
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Many stations, including COS, are served by a mixture of mainline and Express flights. UA's contracts with its Express carriers give it a great deal of flexibility. If they replace a regional jet flight with a mainline flight, it's a good bet that the regional plane will be reallocated elsewhere.
I wonder if this is part of their attempt to add more premium seats to more of their routes, and a temporary solution until they get their new three-cabin CRJs.
#22
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This is true throughout the system. For example, AUS-IAH can be anything from an ERJ145 (rare, admittedly) to a 739. All airlines have enormous amounts of demand data available to them, which they use to try to allocate their resources as profitably as possible. I don't have detailed information about the history of every route in the system , but I can tell you that on many of the routes I fly frequently, it'll be express service one month and mainline the next, or vice versa.
#23
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#24
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UA DID have competition at one time COS-DEN; it was Western Pacific. UA dumped a lot of mainline planes into COS-DEN, including DC-10s, during that period. One of the many reasons WestPac failed.
#25
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#26
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Enjoyed the DC-10 on my flights back in the day to COS.
Wonder if this is just aircraft utilization or UA waking up that many of us in COS prefer COS over DEN for a number of reasons. Shorter drive time, mostly shorty security time, cheaper parking, etc. COS team has been very active in attracting new routes and increased coverage in the last few years. We have added a nice lounge open to pretty much everyone with some sort of status with any airline, the fire last year forced some upgrades as well which aren't done yet. I as a UA flyer felt UA didn't take advantage of the work done by COS management, but maybe things have changed, finally.
Wonder if this is just aircraft utilization or UA waking up that many of us in COS prefer COS over DEN for a number of reasons. Shorter drive time, mostly shorty security time, cheaper parking, etc. COS team has been very active in attracting new routes and increased coverage in the last few years. We have added a nice lounge open to pretty much everyone with some sort of status with any airline, the fire last year forced some upgrades as well which aren't done yet. I as a UA flyer felt UA didn't take advantage of the work done by COS management, but maybe things have changed, finally.
I do that, I seem to get caught in some awful storm!
Now if UA would just run a once a day nonstop from EWR, it’d be perfect!
#27
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I am glad to hear this. i used to use COS as an easy back-up for me. I live on the southwest side of Highland Ranch so it only about a 5 minute difference between airports. Back in my 1K days, I used to connect from COS to DEN and onward regularly to double up on Segments.
#28
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I am glad to hear this. i used to use COS as an easy back-up for me. I live on the southwest side of Highland Ranch so it only about a 5 minute difference between airports. Back in my 1K days, I used to connect from COS to DEN and onward regularly to double up on Segments.
#29
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It’s just too bad that the city backed out on their plans to provide covered parking @ COS (not even available if one pays for valet). I’ve had friends who’ve had their cars completely totaled by hail in COS parking (which is why I only park there if my taxi/Lyft/wife fails to come through on time). Same holds true of DEN, though, unless the expense of one of the garages is a viable option.
#30
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It’s just too bad that the city backed out on their plans to provide covered parking @ COS (not even available if one pays for valet). I’ve had friends who’ve had their cars completely totaled by hail in COS parking (which is why I only park there if my taxi/Lyft/wife fails to come through on time). Same holds true of DEN, though, unless the expense of one of the garages is a viable option.