UA 179 (EWR-HKG) 19 Jan 2019 diverted YYR , passengers stuck on board for 13 hours
Jan 23, 2019, 9:23 pm
#211
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Delta. They rescued flight 128 diverted to Shemya en-route from PEK to SEA on Christmas Eve. rescue flight was on the ground 11 hours later and that was 6.23 hrs flight from SEA. So it took them <7 hours to get that flight in the air from when they knew of the diversion.
For the DL flight, they diverted 01:58 into their flight, and continued on to SYA for another 03:20. If you assume they notified company of their issue and figured out a diversion point, let's assume there was 4 hour notice before landing in SYA at 11:50 PM local time. The rescue flight landed at 11:10AM local time ~ 11:20 later. About 15 hours in total for DL to get a rescue flight on the ground - 6.5 of those was flying in the relief plane.
UA179 landed to offload a passenger at 9:20PM local time. Let's assume an hour later they figured out they had a disabled plane. so at 10:20PM the process starts. The relief plane lands around noon local time Sunday, about 13.5 hours later, 2.5 hours to fly the relief plane in.
A big reason the UA flight was on the ground longer was the issue wasnt declared until at least after they offloaded the sick passenger. DL appears to be quicker to react, but we don't know if the EWR weather had a factor.
I'm not sure if I'd call DL drastically more organized than UA using this data.
Reference:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...420Z/ZBAA/KSEA
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...110Z/KSEA/PASY
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...015Z/KEWR/VHHH
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...610Z/KEWR/CYYR
Jan 23, 2019, 9:53 pm
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I might not have the right math, so feel free to correct me, but...
For the DL flight, they diverted 01:58 into their flight, and continued on to SYA for another 03:20. If you assume they notified company of their issue and figured out a diversion point, let's assume there was 4 hour notice before landing in SYA at 11:50 PM local time. The rescue flight landed at 11:10AM local time ~ 11:20 later. About 15 hours in total for DL to get a rescue flight on the ground - 6.5 of those was flying in the relief plane.
UA179 landed to offload a passenger at 9:20PM local time. Let's assume an hour later they figured out they had a disabled plane. so at 10:20PM the process starts. The relief plane lands around noon local time Sunday, about 13.5 hours later, 2.5 hours to fly the relief plane in.
A big reason the UA flight was on the ground longer was the issue wasnt declared until at least after they offloaded the sick passenger. DL appears to be quicker to react, but we don't know if the EWR weather had a factor.
I'm not sure if I'd call DL drastically more organized than UA using this data.
Reference:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...420Z/ZBAA/KSEA
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...110Z/KSEA/PASY
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...015Z/KEWR/VHHH
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...610Z/KEWR/CYYR
For the DL flight, they diverted 01:58 into their flight, and continued on to SYA for another 03:20. If you assume they notified company of their issue and figured out a diversion point, let's assume there was 4 hour notice before landing in SYA at 11:50 PM local time. The rescue flight landed at 11:10AM local time ~ 11:20 later. About 15 hours in total for DL to get a rescue flight on the ground - 6.5 of those was flying in the relief plane.
UA179 landed to offload a passenger at 9:20PM local time. Let's assume an hour later they figured out they had a disabled plane. so at 10:20PM the process starts. The relief plane lands around noon local time Sunday, about 13.5 hours later, 2.5 hours to fly the relief plane in.
A big reason the UA flight was on the ground longer was the issue wasnt declared until at least after they offloaded the sick passenger. DL appears to be quicker to react, but we don't know if the EWR weather had a factor.
I'm not sure if I'd call DL drastically more organized than UA using this data.
Reference:
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...420Z/ZBAA/KSEA
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...110Z/KSEA/PASY
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...015Z/KEWR/VHHH
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...610Z/KEWR/CYYR
first sign of engine issues happened 4 hours into flight. diversion for delta happened on tracking call at ~4:40 in and landed ~40 minutes after calling diversion.
The diversion landed ~midnight local->rescue landed was 11 hours not 16 hours. 11 + 2 (time to call ops for engine out) - 6 (flight time from SEA) = 7 hours to dispatch rescue flight.
Jan 23, 2019, 9:53 pm
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One of the credit card schill bloggers has spoken, and ran with this clickbait as a title: "In 20hr Canada delay incident, UA captain failed".
I did not click the link, and I will not name the blog to indirectly drive clicks his way. It's sad that there are parasites who have no problem bashing flight crew to generate traffic.
I did not click the link, and I will not name the blog to indirectly drive clicks his way. It's sad that there are parasites who have no problem bashing flight crew to generate traffic.
Jan 23, 2019, 10:27 pm
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One of the credit card schill bloggers has spoken, and ran with this clickbait as a title: "In 20hr Canada delay incident, UA captain failed".
I did not click the link, and I will not name the blog to indirectly drive clicks his way. It's sad that there are parasites who have no problem bashing flight crew to generate traffic.
I did not click the link, and I will not name the blog to indirectly drive clicks his way. It's sad that there are parasites who have no problem bashing flight crew to generate traffic.
