UA Q4/Full Year 2018 Results/Conference Call 16 Jan 2019
Jan 17, 2019, 10:32 am
#31
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OTOH, United's objectively least-comfortable Y cabins (787, 77W, reconfigured 772) are mostly deployed across the Pacific, with numbers increasing, and that region outperformed, with 4% yoy capacity growth, 4.5% better PRASM and 4.2% better yields in the 4Q vs. 2017. DL, conversely, grew only 1.2% TPAC, with a .2% decline in unit revenue and 2.5% better yields, despite having arguably better cabin products.
I'm not necessarily mounting a defense of uncomfortable Y cabins (I too actively avoid), but rather am trying to highlight the difficulty of extrapolating numbers to support arguments in favor of a somewhat tenuous correlation.
Jan 17, 2019, 11:04 am
#32
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For equipment, as long as it's not a CRJ200, I don't care. I enjoy the E170/175, but the 145 is fine for this flight to be honest. It's short enough that it doesn't matter.
But for frequency, that I care about quite a bit. It's nice to have the early morning and afternoon options for the outbound to CMH, and the same - late afternoon and early morning return to EWR are great. Adding an 11pm departure CMH-EWR (post-client-dinner) would save me a bunch of hotel overnights, but I don't see that in the cards....
As long as I don't have to hop around, I'll be fine. I remember a time when EWR-CLE-CMH was the way to get there. Don't want to go back.
But for frequency, that I care about quite a bit. It's nice to have the early morning and afternoon options for the outbound to CMH, and the same - late afternoon and early morning return to EWR are great. Adding an 11pm departure CMH-EWR (post-client-dinner) would save me a bunch of hotel overnights, but I don't see that in the cards....
As long as I don't have to hop around, I'll be fine. I remember a time when EWR-CLE-CMH was the way to get there. Don't want to go back.
I would think CVG - NYC would be a business-heavy enough route to keep at least 2-cabin RJs...if not mainline. And anecdotally, there were certainly FC tickets being sold.
But apparently not...
Feb 2, 2019, 3:47 pm
#33
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The other thing is that UA continues to fly more passenger-friendly, more spacious Y configurations (767s) over the Atlantic, yet it saw yield contraction in that geography in 4Q (5%).
OTOH, United's objectively least-comfortable Y cabins (787, 77W, reconfigured 772) are mostly deployed across the Pacific, with numbers increasing, and that region outperformed, with 4% yoy capacity growth, 4.5% better PRASM and 4.2% better yields in the 4Q vs. 2017. DL, conversely, grew only 1.2% TPAC, with a .2% decline in unit revenue and 2.5% better yields, despite having arguably better cabin products.
I'm not necessarily mounting a defense of uncomfortable Y cabins (I too actively avoid), but rather am trying to highlight the difficulty of extrapolating numbers to support arguments in favor of a somewhat tenuous correlation.
OTOH, United's objectively least-comfortable Y cabins (787, 77W, reconfigured 772) are mostly deployed across the Pacific, with numbers increasing, and that region outperformed, with 4% yoy capacity growth, 4.5% better PRASM and 4.2% better yields in the 4Q vs. 2017. DL, conversely, grew only 1.2% TPAC, with a .2% decline in unit revenue and 2.5% better yields, despite having arguably better cabin products.
I'm not necessarily mounting a defense of uncomfortable Y cabins (I too actively avoid), but rather am trying to highlight the difficulty of extrapolating numbers to support arguments in favor of a somewhat tenuous correlation.
Feb 3, 2019, 9:45 am
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No rumor... once N660UA comes out of the shop, the next 17 763ERs (the remaining 763ERs that won't be retired in the next few years) to be reconfigured in the Polaris layout will have in the '76L' configuration with 46 business class seats and Premium Plus (premium economy).
