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N104UA Feb 12, 2019 6:26 am


Originally Posted by EmailKid (Post 30767010)
Back in the day, IIRC, NW was among first to order the DreamLiner (ANA launch customer, CO launch N. American customer). pmUA came along a little later IIRC, splitting the order between 787 and 350.

Now to the point - post merger DL did not want 787s, deferred at first, but actually cancelled relatively quick - of course they had the luxury of Boeing's delays (those by many accounts really hurt CO who bet big time on DreamLiner).

Who knows what the penalty was, but DL did not want this plane for some reason, and IIRC just a few years ago again rejected it in favor of A330 NEO.

DL and NW merged in 2008 and DL defered the order in 2010 but didn't officially cancel until 2016, by no means is that quick.

Bunky Feb 12, 2019 8:25 am

789:
N45956 exited AMA paint 2757/11Feb

78X: N12004 sked to exit IAD New Delivery Induction 2736/12Feb.
First revenue flight 637/14Feb EWR-SFO
4th UA 78X in limited Transcon revenue service.

GMoneyCO Feb 12, 2019 8:56 am

763:
N660UA - Scheduled to exit HKG on 14-Feb/2766.

adg1234 Feb 12, 2019 1:11 pm

I think there is a typo on the fleet site. Under the 77W, plane number N2534U, it has the wrong configuration, should have Premium Economy setup.

Bunky Feb 12, 2019 5:16 pm

I had colored the PE units and mistakenly colored N2534U by mistake. It has not received PE and verified by seat maps.

cesco.g Feb 12, 2019 8:54 pm


Originally Posted by wxguy (Post 30766108)
My guess is that UA is waiting for Boeing to formally launch/offer the NMA (aka 797), rumored to be at the June air show in France. Then UA can negotiate for a large order of 777Xs and 797s. I too believe the A350 will be cancelled -- maybe in exchange for some number of A320neos and/or A321neos.

A321s for the aging 757 ps fleet > any day !!!

Bunky Feb 13, 2019 12:36 am

772:
N215UA sked to exit HKG maint 2775/15Feb
N228UA sked to exit XMN 2733/15Feb with Polaris/PE
N782UA sked to enter XMN 2735/15Feb for Polaris/PE

788:
N27903 entered AMA 2758/12Feb for paint

wxguy Feb 13, 2019 5:58 am


Originally Posted by cesco.g (Post 30771795)
A321s for the aging 757 ps fleet > any day !!!

The rumor is the announced 737-MAX10 order will have a subfleet outfitted with flatbed J (16?) for Transcon Premium Service.

N104UA Feb 13, 2019 7:16 am


Originally Posted by wxguy (Post 30772953)
The rumor is the announced 737-MAX10 order will have a subfleet outfitted with flatbed J (16?) for Transcon Premium Service.

16J would be a significant downgrade from 28J now, especially considering UA is adding more J seats on the 763 and 319/20, with how premium the p.s. routes are (and full J is) I would find it hard to believe UA decreases seat counts in J.

Kacee Feb 13, 2019 8:04 am


Originally Posted by N104UA (Post 30773178)
16J would be a significant downgrade from 28J now, especially considering UA is adding more J seats on the 763 and 319/20, with how premium the p.s. routes are (and full J is) I would find it hard to believe UA decreases seat counts in J.

Especially considering UA is selling out the J cabin on SFO-EWR a week or more in advance. And that's with three or four daily widebodies on the route (781, 77W, 77G).

Going 16J would be an AA-style revenue blunder of epic proportion.

PTahCha Feb 13, 2019 8:06 am


Originally Posted by N104UA (Post 30773178)
16J would be a significant downgrade from 28J now, especially considering UA is adding more J seats on the 763 and 319/20, with how premium the p.s. routes are (and full J is) I would find it hard to believe UA decreases seat counts in J.

True, but they also have been using a number of widebodies on the premium transcon routes to back-fill.

EWR764 Feb 13, 2019 8:22 am


Originally Posted by wxguy (Post 30772953)
The rumor is the announced 737-MAX10 order will have a subfleet outfitted with flatbed J (16?) for Transcon Premium Service.


Originally Posted by N104UA (Post 30773178)
16J would be a significant downgrade from 28J now, especially considering UA is adding more J seats on the 763 and 319/20, with how premium the p.s. routes are (and full J is) I would find it hard to believe UA decreases seat counts in J.


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 30773356)
Especially considering UA is selling out the J cabin on SFO-EWR a week or more in advance. And that's with three or four daily widebodies on the route (781, 77W, 77G).

Going 16J would be an AA-style revenue blunder of epic proportion.

We can only go by the public comments from leadership, and in the most recent earnings call, we heard this from Andrew Nocella:


We are growing our premium cabins from New York to LA and San Francisco. It's really important for us.
That would suggest to me the plan is actually the opposite of reducing the size of premium cabins on EWR-LAX/SFO.

As far as configuration of a planned MAX10, I've heard rumors of a p.s. replacement configuration in addition to a standard domestic layout, but no word on cabin size for the premium variant. There's also speculation that the Thompson Vantage Solo direct aisle access herringbone seat (optimized for a narrowbody cross-section) will be used.

Bunky Feb 14, 2019 8:38 am

763:
N660UA HKG exit cancelled for now
N662UA noted to enter HKG 2769/15Feb - was n retire list, we'll ahve to see what's going on

772:
N78001 sked to enter HKG 179/14Feb, Polaris, maint or possible slip as normal turn is being covered by N78013
N78013 sked to exit HKG 180/16Feb, 31 days not enough time for Polaris, no Polaris seat map

77W:
N2142U sked to exit SFO 917/15Feb with PE mod completed - 11 complete, 7 to go

789:
N27964 sked to exit XMN maint 2759/16Feb

78X:
N12004 currently en route on first revenue flight 637/14Feb

UAinAUS Feb 14, 2019 1:02 pm

UAX Update
 
CR2:
The final ExpressJet deal shows only 16 CR2s being operated by EV instead of the original 20. All 16 already in service.
N857AS has transferred back to Skywest from ExpressJet (still flying for UAX)

ER4:
N847HK (2004 build) entered the UAX fleet with TransStates. Should be in new TSA livery. This should be the last AX ERJ addition.

Bunky Feb 15, 2019 5:31 pm

753:
N74856 exited SAT 2730/15Feb with slimlines
Still waiting for N57852 and N57855 at MIA since mid Dec.

772:
N77014 sked to enter HKG 2778/15Feb, potental Polaris/PE

77W:
N2333U entered SFO 889/13Feb, PE mod???


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