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View Poll Results: Your nomination for the new UA Ghetto Bird
77W - we'd say this is the UA flagship but that UA title's already claimed by the 737.
2.93%
772 - post Polaris conversion and Y going to 10 abreast.
5.86%
77G - UA's high density 772s with 10 abreast Y and a small 28 J F cabin with pmUA lie-flat
47.70%
788 / 789 - the ERJs of the pacific. Newer plane with older product servicing UA's longest routes.
5.02%
763 - old pmCO retrofit. These former pmUA ghetto birds actually got upgraded in the merger.
2.09%
753 - slimline goodness for Y passengers!
5.86%
73whatever - Boeing's (((next)next)next) Gen 737 and the flagship of the UA fleet!
9.21%
ERJ145 - You'd really click this option over the CRJ? Really?
3.35%
CRJ200 - There's a special place in hell reserved for whoever pushed this into airline service.
39.75%
I fly private so this is a stupid question.
0.42%
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What’s the new ghetto bird?

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Old Dec 15, 2018, 12:51 am
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Originally Posted by rch4u
Any 737.
I was on a 737-900 or maybe 800 yesterday IAD_DEN and it was beat to hell. I haven't seen a cabin with that many scars and dings in a long time. Bins were small, the internet/ipad entertainment didn't work. My seat recline button had to just barely be touched to get recline going. Plus, the ridiculous number of people that stream on. I really wish they would get a 757 mid load point. I was not a fan of 757s- but I usually sat in back. Now I look forward to them if I have an F seat.

I thought these later/bigger 737s were newer?
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 2:04 am
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77G without a doubt. Any 737 with a slimlined Lav is a close second.
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 2:52 am
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Originally Posted by rolltribe
With the final 3 class 763 looking like it’s heading to HKG in the imminent future for Polaris, what’s the new ghetto bird? The 3 class 772 in biz is an obvious nomination. But the Y class is now one of the better options still being 9 abreast. pmCO 772 is another showing its age but again has a reasonable Y class. Also- sticking to mainline only. Half the UAX fleet qualifies has ghetto bird.
I flew a 772 down to GRU and it was pretty crappy looking. The AVOD was that old square screen, very unresponsive, pretty brutal. The seat admittedly was fairly comfy since there was some good cushion to it, but the armrests were enormous, the outer ones wouldn't go up that I could figure out, they were pretty cumbersome and obtrusive. No USB, but the legroom was pretty decent, and it was only 3-3-3.

So while they look brutal, it's about the trade-off. Are you more concerned about minor creature comforts like AVOD & USB, plus moving armrests, or are you ONLY concerned about how much padding is under your butt.

No matter how narrow the seats seem to get, my shoulders always kinda bump up against others, so the 3-3-3 of the 772 is nice, but the 3-4-3 wasn't as bad as people make it out to be on the 773 imo.
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 6:53 am
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 7:09 am
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Originally Posted by J.Edward
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I am loving the creative, blunt descriptions ... “the ERJ of the Pacific”
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by PushingTin
I was on a 737-900 or maybe 800 yesterday IAD_DEN and it was beat to hell. I haven't seen a cabin with that many scars and dings in a long time. Bins were small, the internet/ipad entertainment didn't work. My seat recline button had to just barely be touched to get recline going. Plus, the ridiculous number of people that stream on. I really wish they would get a 757 mid load point. I was not a fan of 757s- but I usually sat in back. Now I look forward to them if I have an F seat.

I thought these later/bigger 737s were newer?
The first 738s were delivered in 1998 and are still flying, so some of them are 20 years old at this time
... first 739s delivered in 2001.

The 738 I flew on to Hawaii last week was battered to death, 2000 delivery with clearly no cabin refresh. That could easily be the new ghetto.
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 7:27 am
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CRJ

Full stop. Next question?
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 8:35 am
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77G - and I'm stuck w/ it out of Hawaii a lot of times. The worst lie-flat option out of Hawaii and the worst coach option out of Hawaii.

For Europeans, there is a way to tolerate it in F to Hawaii - take first LHR-SFO flight of day, eat fine meal at SFO Polaris lounge, and then try to sleep thru the miserable experience to HNL. It's better to be asleep or dead on than plane than be awake (in either cabin).
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by greenpau
The 738 I flew on to Hawaii last week was battered to death, 2000 delivery with clearly no cabin refresh. That could easily be the new ghetto.
Those old 738s with the broken CO F seats (twist recline into your lap) are a disgrace.

Originally Posted by IAH-OIL-TRASH
It's better to be asleep or dead on than plane than be awake (in either cabin).
Asleep yes, but that last part may be a bit of an overstatement

For a daytime flight, I'd almost rather be in 1A on the 753. At least there are places to put your stuff.
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by J.Edward
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Originally Posted by greenpau


I am loving the creative, blunt descriptions ... “the ERJ of the Pacific”
Yeah, that one and the "UA flagship ... title's already claimed by the 737" are excellent.
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 9:19 am
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I noticed the list had the E175 left off, as it is arguably the best plane in the fleet it should have not been put on the list
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by Hipplewm
I noticed the list had the E175 left off, as it is arguably the best plane in the fleet it should have not been put on the list
E175 is definitely an excellent plane, and if I can get A side of FC I'll take it over a mainline plane every day and just eat in the airport.

sCO 764 is the E175 of the mainline fleet IMO.
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 9:32 am
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777 "mass grave " config
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Old Dec 15, 2018, 9:38 am
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77G for sure. The absolute worst in each and every class. But all the other choices are about evenly bad if you have to fly in the back of the bus. Including those which are not on the list. I would, however, not include the 763 ( or any other 767 configuration ) in the list. They are surprisingly the current "darlings" in the system for me.

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Old Dec 15, 2018, 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by wanderingkev
777 "mass grave " config
The "Queen of the Skies" was retired a little over a year ago (time sure flies), but the "Cemetery of the Skies" flies on....
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