Travel Waiver: Midwest Winter Weather (November 24-26, 2018)
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Travel Waiver: Midwest Winter Weather (November 24-26, 2018)
Airports:
Rebook by November 30th, 2018.
Waiver (normal folks): https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/tra...eptionPolicies
Waiver Parameter Code (likely): 1+
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- Cedar Rapids, IA (CID)
- Columbia, MO (COU)
- Chicago-O'Hare, IL (ORD)
- Des Moines, IA (DSM)
- Green Bay, WI (GRB)
- Hays, KS (HYS)
- Kearney, NE (EAR)
- Kansas City, MO (MCI)
- Madison, WI (MSN)
- Milwaukee, WI (MKE)
- Moline, IL (MLI)
- Omaha, NE (OMA)
- Peoria, IL (PIA)
- Quincy, IL (UIN)
- Scottsbluff, NE (BFF)
- Wichita, KS (ICT)
Waiver (normal folks): https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/tra...eptionPolicies
Waiver Parameter Code (likely): 1+
David
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I'm on a 6:30pm ORD-PHL on Sunday. I'm also a little short on PQM for next year. Would I be able to change to something like ORD-IAH-PHL assuming there is space? When I search ORD-PHL, it never seems to give me that option so I figure that may violate a fare rule. Assuming if that is true I also don't know if they are allowed to violate fare rules with a waiver.
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I'm on a 6:30pm ORD-PHL on Sunday. I'm also a little short on PQM for next year. Would I be able to change to something like ORD-IAH-PHL assuming there is space? When I search ORD-PHL, it never seems to give me that option so I figure that may violate a fare rule. Assuming if that is true I also don't know if they are allowed to violate fare rules with a waiver.
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I'm on a 6:30pm ORD-PHL on Sunday. I'm also a little short on PQM for next year. Would I be able to change to something like ORD-IAH-PHL assuming there is space? When I search ORD-PHL, it never seems to give me that option so I figure that may violate a fare rule. Assuming if that is true I also don't know if they are allowed to violate fare rules with a waiver.
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Is this the same case for a 24hr SDC?
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HA, I'm not trying to cheat UA. I'm just trying to understand their expectation when you change a flight with a travel waiver or SDC. On one hand, I would think they should just do whatever I want that is within their rules. On the other hand, there may be some "not so clear" rules that I am missing.
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HA, I'm not trying to cheat UA. I'm just trying to understand their expectation when you change a flight with a travel waiver or SDC. On one hand, I would think they should just do whatever I want that is within their rules. On the other hand, there may be some "not so clear" rules that I am missing.
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No, there is no FRA-PHL flight. ORD-FRA-IAH-PHL would be entirely reasonable (I assume that would break fare rules)
I'm just curious what are "acceptable reasons" for a change. I've heard of people doing SDC HNL-GUM to HNL-MAJ-KWA-KSA-PNI-TKK-GUM.
Last edited by eng3; Nov 24, 2018 at 11:25 am
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The routing routes for ORD-PHL are
CHI-EWR/WAS-PHL
How would this work with a weather waive??? A more complex routing on the same days as the waiver??
SDC on the app sometimes offers routings outside the fare rules but word is that is getting tighter also.
CHI-EWR/WAS-PHL
How would this work with a weather waive??? A more complex routing on the same days as the waiver??
SDC on the app sometimes offers routings outside the fare rules but word is that is getting tighter also.
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OK, so changes using a weather waiver on the same day require the routing to be equal or less complex?
And SDC is more flexible?
Good to know, thanks
And SDC is more flexible?
Good to know, thanks
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Agents have the ability to put you upon just about any flight for any reason that they can defend if they get audited. So, if you’re ticketed from ORD to PHL, and you want to route via IAD, that’s within the rules and doesn’t require a reason. If you ask to go ORD-CLE-IAD-PHL, that’s one more transfer than permitted by the rules, but it’s travel in the right direction and if it was the only thing that was available, or it fit your schedule better, or whatever, it’s likely you could get that done. (Maybe ORD-IAD is full, etc.)
But when you ask to fly via IAH, you’re adding 231% to the traveled distance (2249 miles vs. 678 miles). There are going to be a ton of options that are clearly better by any measure except PQMs. There are only two ways I can see that working — your original flight is cancelled and there’s no alternative that gets you in earlier, or all of the ORD-PHL, ORD-EWR, and ORD-IAD flights are full and you’re able to convince the agent that you need to get out of town ahead of the storm.
Sort of? SDC isn’t technically any more flexible by rule. In practice, though, the app is sometimes pretty flexible for SDC. That’s been less true recently, but you may still get some higher-PQM options. As soon as you have to call an agent, though, the waiver and SDC are going to be treated the same — you need a convincing reason to get an agent to help you.
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Ah, I didn't think about having them put me on a partner airline
OK so if I understand correctly, IF I am within original fare rules then I should expect them to accept my request without needing to provide a reason, but if I am breaking a fare rule, I or they will need to have a reason. And that reason seems to need to be more in line with timing (getting in earlier, going on a different day, etc).
And just to stay on topic, I did end up changing my flight to the next earlier flight (3:40pm)
OK so if I understand correctly, IF I am within original fare rules then I should expect them to accept my request without needing to provide a reason, but if I am breaking a fare rule, I or they will need to have a reason. And that reason seems to need to be more in line with timing (getting in earlier, going on a different day, etc).
And just to stay on topic, I did end up changing my flight to the next earlier flight (3:40pm)
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OK so if I understand correctly, IF I am within original fare rules then I should expect them to accept my request without needing to provide a reason, but if I am breaking a fare rule, I or they will need to have a reason. And that reason seems to need to be more in line with timing (getting in earlier, going on a different day, etc).
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If you can get the re-route, then be prepared to get to ORD way early. The last flight out of IAH to PHL is departing at 7:42pm (UA1753).