Yet again standby passengers upgraded before regular waitlist

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Nov 15, 2018, 2:29 pm

#16

jsloan

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Originally Posted by Trappy

I can assure you that minutes before this screen showed that me and two above me were going to clear before it went SMI X 3 and as other poster says they were not shown on regular standby list

A non-rev waitlisted for business class would appear at the bottom of the upgrade list. If you're saying that these passengers were not present on the upgrade list at all, it's likely that there's another explanation.

(It's likely there's another explanation anyway, since an employee caught upgrading a non-rev ahead of a paying customer would be subject to termination, but that doesn't seem to stop the rampant conspiracy theories).

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Nov 15, 2018, 3:15 pm

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They were not on the regular wait list at all just the stand by

Nov 15, 2018, 3:29 pm

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My guess is as someone else suggested that the Smisek familyi and Set were GS.

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Nov 15, 2018, 7:25 pm

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looks fishy for sure. Unless someone was waitlisted for P or higher due to irops ... this is usually how NRSAs clear. Worth an inquiry for sure

Nov 15, 2018, 9:28 pm

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Originally Posted by cfischer

looks fishy for sure. Unless someone was waitlisted for P or higher due to irops ... this is usually how NRSAs clear. Worth an inquiry for sure

Would UA concede that there was a mistake in the u/g process and make it up for OP, if it indeed happened?

(Not questioning your suggestion -cfischer- to write in)

Nov 16, 2018, 5:04 am

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Can someone explain the "shenanigan" for me, please?

Should someone on both upgrade and standby lists not be upgraded first, before someone just on the upgrade list? Is THAT the issue?

Nov 16, 2018, 6:02 am

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Originally Posted by narvik

Can someone explain the "shenanigan" for me, please?

Should someone on both upgrade and standby lists not be upgraded first, before someone just on the upgrade list? Is THAT the issue?

They should first clear the UG list then the standby list. Pax listed on both standby and UG lists are NRSAs ... so those should definitely not clear first. Now, there is a priority sby list for displaced premium pax and that 'should' clear before the UG list. How that is being displayed in the new system since the change to the alphabet soup is something we don't know for sure yet.

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Nov 16, 2018, 11:03 am

#23

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Originally Posted by Trappy

beeb wait listed for three months was number 3 with four seats and then four standby passengers all upgraded. Not the first tine how does this happen

@Trappy were you the K fare with the PPU?

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Originally Posted by malgudi

Employee class trumps paying passengers ...

not sure that we agree with that here

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Originally Posted by tuolumne

Not sure how the logic is when displaying NRPS these days, but something to consider.

NRPS would not generally clear an upgrade list before revenue pax

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Originally Posted by nomad420

My guess is as someone else suggested that the Smisek familyi and Set were GS.

SMI really covers a lot of last names that are not Smisek

Nov 16, 2018, 11:51 am

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Originally Posted by runner450

SMI really covers a lot of last names that are not Smisek

Yes, including the most common American surname.

But I believe everyone (including myself) referring to the SMI group is joking about it being Smisek because of the fun we like to have with him.

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Nov 16, 2018, 11:52 am

#25

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Displaced confirmed F/J passengers can appear on both the standby and upgrade lists at the same time. Agents should clear these people ahead of passengers ticketed in Y regardless of upgrade method being used for that Y->J/F. Nothing to see here.

Nov 16, 2018, 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by geckoflyer

It's not clear whether or not SMI, _ and RUB, A appeared on the upgrade list, though. My understanding is that they would have as displaced J, but it seemed they did not show there. That said, something odd is apparently going on with the display for the last week or so (more than the change made earlier this year to suppress T>24 clearances).

Nov 16, 2018, 12:31 pm

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Originally Posted by geckoflyer

THIS
it happen to me as I was an IIROP F passenger and was on the sby list (not on upgrade list as I had paid F tickets). So I got cleared before the upgrade list.

Nov 16, 2018, 12:36 pm

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Originally Posted by chebert999

THIS
it happen to me as I was an IIROP F passenger and was on the sby list (not on upgrade list as I had paid F tickets). So I got cleared before the upgrade list.

As I recall in the pre-merger days, UA called it the "FFCC" list or something like that. Displaced premium passengers who were on stand-by for premium class, and were cleared before coach upgraders. How that manifests itself in the post-merger world's lists...