Nov 11, 2018, 9:43 pm
Last edit by: Ocn Vw 1K
Updated waiver as of >14 Nov. 2018: Note added cities and extended dates:
November 9, 2018 - November 23, 2018
Flight changes: The change fee and any difference in fare will be waived for new United flights departing on or before December 2, 2018, as long as travel is rescheduled in the originally ticketed cabin (any fare class) and between the same cities as originally ticketed.
Earlier waivers for this incident:
older waiver
- Burbank, CA (BUR)
- Los Angeles, CA (LAX)
- Sacramento, CA (SMF)
- San Francisco, CA (SFO)
- Santa Rosa, CA (STS)
November 9, 2018 - November 23, 2018
Flight changes: The change fee and any difference in fare will be waived for new United flights departing on or before December 2, 2018, as long as travel is rescheduled in the originally ticketed cabin (any fare class) and between the same cities as originally ticketed.
Earlier waivers for this incident:
older waiver
Travel Waiver California Wildfires 9-23 November 2018
Nov 10, 2018, 1:35 pm
#17
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Nov 10, 2018, 1:54 pm
#18
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oops, never mind...not worth the hassle of going thru AKL
Nov 10, 2018, 1:55 pm
#19
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Nov 10, 2018, 2:04 pm
#20
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It's not as bad as yesterday (I can't actually smell the smoke inside, unless I've just gotten used to it) but I don't know if the visibility is good enough to prevent delays. That being said, it's really no different than normal poor visibility delays at SFO, and international flights are the least likely to be impacted. Planes can still take off and land, they just can't always use the second runway for parallel landings, hence delays, but it's mostly going to be short-haul flights.
Nov 10, 2018, 2:13 pm
#21
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I had an hour plus ATC delay getting into SFO yesterday because of smoke. I just called to take advantage of the travel waiver and moved an upcoming fight to an earlier time so allow for delay. Done without issue.......
Nov 10, 2018, 2:14 pm
#22
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SoCal is getting hit also.
I'm 15 minutes east of LAX and the smoke just rolled into my neighborhood. It was a nice sunny day. The air smells like a giant grill. I have friends in Thousand Oaks that have evacuated from their homes the last couple of days due to fire threat.
I'm 15 minutes east of LAX and the smoke just rolled into my neighborhood. It was a nice sunny day. The air smells like a giant grill. I have friends in Thousand Oaks that have evacuated from their homes the last couple of days due to fire threat.
Nov 10, 2018, 3:29 pm
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SoCal is getting hit also.
I'm 15 minutes east of LAX and the smoke just rolled into my neighborhood. It was a nice sunny day. The air smells like a giant grill. I have friends in Thousand Oaks that have evacuated from their homes the last couple of days due to fire threat.
I'm 15 minutes east of LAX and the smoke just rolled into my neighborhood. It was a nice sunny day. The air smells like a giant grill. I have friends in Thousand Oaks that have evacuated from their homes the last couple of days due to fire threat.
Anyway, I wish the best for your friends (and really anyone else who has to evacuate due to the fires).
Nov 10, 2018, 5:49 pm
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SoCal is getting hit also.
I'm 15 minutes east of LAX and the smoke just rolled into my neighborhood. It was a nice sunny day. The air smells like a giant grill. I have friends in Thousand Oaks that have evacuated from their homes the last couple of days due to fire threat.
I'm 15 minutes east of LAX and the smoke just rolled into my neighborhood. It was a nice sunny day. The air smells like a giant grill. I have friends in Thousand Oaks that have evacuated from their homes the last couple of days due to fire threat.
Nov 10, 2018, 6:08 pm
#26
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Flying MNL-NRT-LAX-DEN on the 15th. If this draws out I would love to be on the NRT-DEN flight. My issue is I have to book an “illegal ticket” due to budget and the international legs are in business, the domestic are in economy. This has made things like SDC nearly impossible. You think I would have issues getting a NRT-DEN seat in business (if available), if the waiver is extended?
Nov 10, 2018, 7:51 pm
#27
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Flying MNL-NRT-LAX-DEN on the 15th. If this draws out I would love to be on the NRT-DEN flight. My issue is I have to book an “illegal ticket” due to budget and the international legs are in business, the domestic are in economy. This has made things like SDC nearly impossible. You think I would have issues getting a NRT-DEN seat in business (if available), if the waiver is extended?
Nov 11, 2018, 10:36 am
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Total ground stop at SFO until 10:30am PST today, with medium probability of extension: https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_otherdis.jsp?advn=31&adv_date=11112018&facId=S FO/ZOA&title=CDM+GROUND+STOP&titleDate=11/11/18
My flight tonight is still on time but I wonder how true that's going to stay.
My flight tonight is still on time but I wonder how true that's going to stay.
Nov 11, 2018, 10:41 am
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Do this. Most likely SFO's GDP won't be issued before 4 am PST when you depart ORD. It should be on time.
Nov 11, 2018, 10:46 am
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Total ground stop at SFO until 10:30am PST today, with medium probability of extension: https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_othe...eDate=11/11/18
It's been replaced by a GDP affecting all CONUS+Canada departures arriving SFO before 2359Z (4 pm PST), average delay 57 min: https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_othe...eDate=11/11/18