Nov 2, 2019, 11:43 pm
Last edit by: zebranz
So, is anything happening with this? Just curious (Oct 3, 2019)
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Related thread: Club member/one-time pass access changes Nov 1, 2019 (same day BP on UA or partner) Original thread -- focused on the basic access issue, most lifetime membership posts have been moved to this lifetime thread
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Buster CT1K
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Related thread: Club member/one-time pass access changes Nov 1, 2019 (same day BP on UA or partner) Original thread -- focused on the basic access issue, most lifetime membership posts have been moved to this lifetime thread
Lifetime Member Edition: UC access changes Nov 1, 2019 (same day BP on UA or partner)
Feb 9, 2019, 9:16 pm
#121
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
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was there such a thing and do you have a copy?
If you have that in writing and signed it could be a useful document.
If you have that in writing and signed it could be a useful document.
Feb 9, 2019, 9:54 pm
#122
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: CLE
Programs: UA GS+LT UC, AA EXP+LT PLT, Fairmont LT PLT, Marriott PLT, Hilton DIA, Hyatt Glob, Avis CHM
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Not so unless UA can produce the lifetime membership contract in the 1990s that shows they have the complete sole discretion to prevent members to enter RCC.
Why not us who purchased lifetime membership from UA?
I purchased my lifetime membership for $2500 in the late 1990s in Taipei. Shortly afterward UA announced that all business class travelers can use RCC free of charge. I wrote to UA and wanted my payment refunded. A VP in Chicago wrote back to offer me a refund, but reminded me that the membership also allows me to use the RCC when I do not fly UA and when I meet friends at the airport, and also use RCC meeting rooms to hold meetings. I decided not to return my membership because I travel to HKG frequently on other airlines, and the meeting rooms were indeed useful to me at SEA and SFO. After UA stopped selling lifetime membership I contact them about meeting room usage, and was told that yes, your right to use RCC meeting rooms for 3 hours(? can't remember) is in the lifetime membership contract and will continue be effective.
I also remember a conversation with a UA manager at TPE who complained to me that some people working at the airport were using RCC nearly daily but not flying to anywhere, That was the time the RCC was in the land side. She said they asked HQ and suggested some way to limit the use, but was told that there was nothing UA could do until these people's annual membership is up for renewals.
Why not us who purchased lifetime membership from UA?
I purchased my lifetime membership for $2500 in the late 1990s in Taipei. Shortly afterward UA announced that all business class travelers can use RCC free of charge. I wrote to UA and wanted my payment refunded. A VP in Chicago wrote back to offer me a refund, but reminded me that the membership also allows me to use the RCC when I do not fly UA and when I meet friends at the airport, and also use RCC meeting rooms to hold meetings. I decided not to return my membership because I travel to HKG frequently on other airlines, and the meeting rooms were indeed useful to me at SEA and SFO. After UA stopped selling lifetime membership I contact them about meeting room usage, and was told that yes, your right to use RCC meeting rooms for 3 hours(? can't remember) is in the lifetime membership contract and will continue be effective.
I also remember a conversation with a UA manager at TPE who complained to me that some people working at the airport were using RCC nearly daily but not flying to anywhere, That was the time the RCC was in the land side. She said they asked HQ and suggested some way to limit the use, but was told that there was nothing UA could do until these people's annual membership is up for renewals.
Feb 10, 2019, 8:49 am
#123
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Homosassa, FL & Ringwood, NJ -UA-G(Lifetime); SPG-Plat (Lifetime)
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I paid about 2700 for my wife and I (Senior price with credit for 3 year membership in place at the time) and I when I was about 62 back in about 2006 from Continental.
Feb 10, 2019, 9:35 am
#124
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: UA 2P, UC, Hertz 5*, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 513
A lifetime member of the united club should have access to the club, regardless of what airline they are flying. It's funny, b/c they put an expiration date of 2099 on the accounts, which doesn't make it a lifetime membership, but rather one in which they are assuming I will be dead in 2099....
Seems like par for the course with United... Sad they have gone so far downhill.
I paid $3,400 cash for this membership.
Seems like par for the course with United... Sad they have gone so far downhill.
I paid $3,400 cash for this membership.
Feb 10, 2019, 9:39 am
#125
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K, Hyatt Globalist, Virtuoso Travel Agent, Commercial Pilot
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The 2099 expiration is probably just because their system can’t handle anything later, or an undefined expiration.
It’s pretty unlikely that airports will even exist in their current form by 2099. The chances of United even still being around by then seem pretty slim too.
It’s pretty unlikely that airports will even exist in their current form by 2099. The chances of United even still being around by then seem pretty slim too.
Feb 10, 2019, 10:03 am
#126
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: MFR
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Won't we have our own flying cars by then?
Feb 11, 2019, 12:08 pm
#128
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Verdi, NV, SFO & Olympic (aka Squaw )Valley.
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Then you probably aren't familiar with the Million Miler lawsuit - which UA took all the way to the Court of Appeals and prevailed. Way more bad publicity than this thread - and affected a lot more people. UA doesn't care about the blowback
Million Miler Sues United [Judgment for UA Jan 2014] Judgment Affirmed Dec 2014
Million Miler Sues United [Judgment for UA Jan 2014] Judgment Affirmed Dec 2014
We're also not yet at the point where the proposed change has been implemented.
While I hope that UA decides, again, to follow the lead of DL by grandfathering in their lifetime members, if they do not I very much would not be surprised if this thread attracted far more publicity.
Feb 12, 2019, 3:57 pm
#129
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 2
Very good points, I might have been one of the younger ones that was the last to purchase the continental president's club lifetime, it was $3,400 and included a partner. At the end of the day, I agree with you, I don't expect united to be around by then the way they are going. Maybe they think they have such an awesome product that it will force people to fly United again?
Feb 16, 2019, 2:31 pm
#130
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SFO, TPE, HNL
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To ctownflyer: Yes I wrote to Oscar but did not hear anything back.
Feb 16, 2019, 5:56 pm
#131
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Feb 16, 2019, 6:29 pm
#132
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BOS<>NYC<>BKK
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Writing to "Oscar" isn't writing to Oscar. The well-known email address for him goes to a separate customer service team for resolution. I doubt he sees any individual message, though he may get a summary of the issues that are received.
Feb 16, 2019, 6:40 pm
#133
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FWIW, Oscar's office has offered me a carve-out exception at my local airport's club when I travel. I told them that I did not find this acceptable, though it's better than nothing. They said that they have not heard from many members about this issue, so they don't think most lifetime members even care about the change.
Feb 16, 2019, 7:39 pm
#134
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Feb 16, 2019, 8:14 pm
#135
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,439
I'm well aware, thanks. He has an executive response team in place for emails to him.
FWIW, Oscar's office has offered me a carve-out exception at my local airport's club when I travel. I told them that I did not find this acceptable, though it's better than nothing. They said that they have not heard from many members about this issue, so they don't think most lifetime members even care about the change.
FWIW, Oscar's office has offered me a carve-out exception at my local airport's club when I travel. I told them that I did not find this acceptable, though it's better than nothing. They said that they have not heard from many members about this issue, so they don't think most lifetime members even care about the change.
I have the unfortunate circumstance of having bought 2 LT passes. The first was in the late 1980's with CO for a price I refuse to reveal, it was so little. But the second was for my wife who travels by herself a lot. I bought that from UA in the mid 2000's for $3400.
I never expected to have this restriction placed on either membership. However, I am going to get Mrs Radonc to write in. Who knows, maybe they will send us another ecert. (I never took them up on their first offer).
