Nov 2, 2019, 11:43 pm
Last edit by: zebranz
So, is anything happening with this? Just curious (Oct 3, 2019)
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Related thread: Club member/one-time pass access changes Nov 1, 2019 (same day BP on UA or partner) Original thread -- focused on the basic access issue, most lifetime membership posts have been moved to this lifetime thread
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ctownflyer
hog Heaven
AAdmiral
nsx + 1
RichardInSF
Sykes
soartoday
lax2jfk2lax
libuser + 1
Xyzzy + 1
Buster CT1K
1K Student
Elitefreak
flyer austin + 1 (wiki-restricted member, added by IAH-OIL-TRASH)
Radonc1 + 1 (not a FT member but has LT membership)
Halo117
mikey
Mnmag
Vulcan
lateacher
kmersh
MazdaMP
bajong
sandiego1k
thesilb
HnlJay
nachosdelux
wtigerFF
a1bengal
benolaa
LeslieandDiane
SPN Lifer +1
YRKInsider
texd
IAHtraveler
nzpilot
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honmani2
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seacarl
Related thread: Club member/one-time pass access changes Nov 1, 2019 (same day BP on UA or partner) Original thread -- focused on the basic access issue, most lifetime membership posts have been moved to this lifetime thread
Lifetime Member Edition: UC access changes Nov 1, 2019 (same day BP on UA or partner)
Nov 8, 2018, 2:57 pm
#61
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: CLE
Programs: UA GS+LT UC, AA EXP+LT PLT, Fairmont LT PLT, Marriott PLT, Hilton DIA, Hyatt Glob, Avis CHM
Posts: 4,670
I wrote to Oscar and got a call back yesterday.
First the agent was reading boilerplate terms that UA can change anything anytime, but the agent was surprised to learn about the details of the paid lifetime program and said she would go to bat for us once I explained everything.
Hoping for good news in writing!
First the agent was reading boilerplate terms that UA can change anything anytime, but the agent was surprised to learn about the details of the paid lifetime program and said she would go to bat for us once I explained everything.
Hoping for good news in writing!
If you're a lifetime member and haven't written in, you should write in now...
Nov 8, 2018, 7:39 pm
#62
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: AS Gold, Hyatt Diamond, Starriott LTPP
Posts: 341
I wrote in with my story of purchasing my lifetime membership many years ago, when it was the largest single transaction of my life. The trust I showed United is not being reciprocated with this policy change.
[email protected]
Nov 9, 2018, 4:11 pm
#63
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Verdi, NV, SFO & Olympic (aka Squaw )Valley.
Programs: Ikon Pass Full + AS Gold + Marriott Titanium + Hilton Gold. Recovering UA Plat. LT lounge AA+DL+UA
Posts: 3,823
I wrote in with my story of purchasing my lifetime membership many years ago, when it was the largest single transaction of my life. The trust I showed United is not being reciprocated with this policy change.
[email protected]
I wrote in with my story of purchasing my lifetime membership many years ago, when it was the largest single transaction of my life. The trust I showed United is not being reciprocated with this policy change.
[email protected]
Nov 11, 2018, 7:36 pm
#64
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: AS Gold, Hyatt Diamond, Starriott LTPP
Posts: 341
The information I received did not seem to indicate an imminent decision of any kind, but rather a generic response indicating feedback would be provided to management.
Nov 15, 2018, 9:42 am
#66
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,387
scar and received nothing in reply.
Nov 15, 2018, 1:04 pm
#68
Moderator: Southwest Airlines, Capital One
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: California
Programs: WN Companion Pass, A-list preferred, Hyatt Globalist; United Club Lietime (sic) Member
Posts: 21,619
Nov 20, 2018, 8:27 am
#69
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: CLE
Programs: UA GS+LT UC, AA EXP+LT PLT, Fairmont LT PLT, Marriott PLT, Hilton DIA, Hyatt Glob, Avis CHM
Posts: 4,670
Email from UA exec CS, "I am still working with our Director of Premium Services to determine if there is an exception that can be made. I am sorry for the delay. Would you happen to have a copy of the original terms and conditions of the Presidents Club pass you purchased?"
Did anyone receive any terms and conditions with their lifetime membership purchase?
Did anyone receive any terms and conditions with their lifetime membership purchase?
Nov 20, 2018, 8:36 am
#70
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Location: Honolulu Harbor
Programs: UA 1K
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Nov 20, 2018, 9:21 am
#71
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Don't think any of the airlines had a separate T&C's for their lifetime memberships, just a general one that covered all memberships.
https://web.archive.org/web/20061114...nge/rules.aspx
https://web.archive.org/web/20061114...nge/rules.aspx
- Continental reserves the right to restrict, alter or modify the fees, benefits, services and clubroom locations at any time with or without written notice to its members.
Nov 20, 2018, 9:29 am
#72
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: CLE, DCA, and 30k feet
Programs: Honors LT Diamond; United 1K; Hertz PC
Posts: 4,154
Alternatively it may be as "saving face" option for I was wrong. I've offered it to clients on several occasions where they have a mistaken recollection of what they contracted for. "Oh, I'm very sorry, would you happen to be able to point me toward the provision you're referring to?" is sometimes less irksome than "As you can very plainly see in the contract...." (it also allows me to save face if in fact that provision was slipped in somewhere without me noticing but so far 95% of the time it's been an assumption not supported by the contract)
Nov 20, 2018, 8:36 pm
#73
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Programs: UA 1K 1MMer & LT UC (when flying UA); Hyatt Credit Cardist; HHonors Diamond; Marriott Gold via UA 1K
Posts: 6,956
Email from UA exec CS, "I am still working with our Director of Premium Services to determine if there is an exception that can be made. I am sorry for the delay. Would you happen to have a copy of the original terms and conditions of the Presidents Club pass you purchased?"
Did anyone receive any terms and conditions with their lifetime membership purchase?
Did anyone receive any terms and conditions with their lifetime membership purchase?
I've only used the UC for three entries when not on a UA flight in the 10 years which I've been a member. The new rule probably won't apply to me more than a handful of times per decade -- but it does irk me that they could sell me something, and then change the rules on me.
Nov 21, 2018, 8:54 am
#74
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Blue Ridge, GA
Posts: 5,502
Absent any official T&C's, it seems to be good business sense that any changes in access rules would not apply to Lifetime members. It doesn't mean that UA will apply good business sense in this regard -- or maybe my idea of good business sense doesn't jibe with UA's. But I'm sure they have the means to collect the data on how many of us use the UA Club when flying on other airlines. I would think that these entries represent a tiny percentage of overall entries.
The second is more aboveboard and less impelled to depreciate value.
Nov 21, 2018, 10:52 am
#75
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 1,437
in the 10 years or i have had my LT membership i have also used the UA lounges under 20 times when flying other airlines. I bet we are in the 0.0001% of all of their guests.
It would seem silly to impose that restriction on us.
It would seem silly to impose that restriction on us.