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GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion


This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread

To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.

Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.

Definitions

BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.

The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.

Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using

PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS

Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.

As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.

One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.

rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.

Originally Posted by sgopal2
Hello:

To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.

Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks

LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit

View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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Old Dec 3, 2018, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
I am in the camp of CPM is a Flyertalk myth and lore.
Also looking at my own records from over a decade of being a GS. My CPM range has been between 14 and 42. My CPM and PQD have little correlation.
I can top the low end of your range. I qualified for GS with less than 10 CPM one year.
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Old Dec 3, 2018, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by LAXOGG
I can top the low end of your range. I qualified for GS with less than 10 CPM one year.
Big BIS year then !

Originally Posted by Hipplewm
Do you have to make 1K to make GS?

What if you had 58K in spend, but only managed 92K PQM?
They would love you more, you don't take up much space

Last edited by WineCountryUA; Dec 3, 2018 at 4:07 pm
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Old Dec 3, 2018, 3:44 pm
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Home airport - how relevant for GS qualification?

Hi,
I am new to this forum and looking forward to be hopefully qualified for GS in 2019. As of today, I am at PQM 212k, PQS 55.5 and PQD (all UA metal) $49,500, will be around $52,000 (UA metal only) at end of year. I I live at two places 50%/50% of my time: Houston (IAH) and Munich (MUC). Both addresses are registered in my United profile with the Houston address being the primary. Question: do I increase my chances by switching my primary address from Houston to Munich - given that Munich is not a hub and thus may have different qualification thresholds?
Thanks,
WinstonSmith84
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Old Dec 3, 2018, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by LAXOGG
I can top the low end of your range. I qualified for GS with less than 10 CPM one year.
If the year is part of that memorable 12-month period which you accumulated 1 million BIS, then I remember it well and cheered for you during your quest! ^
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Old Dec 3, 2018, 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by WinstonSmith84
Hi,
I am new to this forum and looking forward to be hopefully qualified for GS in 2019. As of today, I am at PQM 212k, PQS 55.5 and PQD (all UA metal) $49,500, will be around $52,000 (UA metal only) at end of year. I I live at two places 50%/50% of my time: Houston (IAH) and Munich (MUC). Both addresses are registered in my United profile with the Houston address being the primary. Question: do I increase my chances by switching my primary address from Houston to Munich - given that Munich is not a hub and thus may have different qualification thresholds?
Thanks,
WinstonSmith84
What was your spend on United last year?
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Old Dec 3, 2018, 5:15 pm
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Will I lock a qualification this year?

DEN / MCO based

2014: $43K PQD (did not qualify)
2015: $68K PQD (1K -> GS)
2016: $49K PQD (requal)
2017: $27K PQD (GS -> 1K)
2018: $52K PQD (???)

All UA metal
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Old Dec 3, 2018, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer


If the year is part of that memorable 12-month period which you accumulated 1 million BIS, then I remember it well and cheered for you during your quest! ^
Yes! That was the year. Great memory. Still recovering. One small correction.....it was over a 10 1/2 month period.
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Old Dec 3, 2018, 9:57 pm
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I misread the posts and the spreadsheets; the formula has clearly changed from years ago. My bad.
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 4:47 am
  #354  
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
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Originally Posted by AugustusM
What was your spend on United last year?
Don't know for sure. Roughly $25k on United metal.
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 5:35 am
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Originally Posted by WinstonSmith84
Don't know for sure. Roughly $25k on United metal.
This should be interesting, I was slightly less than that in 2016, at $51K in 2017 and didn't make it. Hope you get in, keep us posted.
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 9:32 am
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Originally Posted by WinstonSmith84
Don't know for sure. Roughly $25k on United metal.
Seeing as I did the same thing several years ago traveling from SFO - MUC and FRA but using LH on many trips I can't say you should have known. But it is only the UA metal dollars that "count" towards potential GS status. At $25K on UA metal you won't get the invite.
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 11:15 am
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Going to end the year at $70K and still nervous because I did 0 UA flying in 2016
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by frequentUAflyer
Going to end the year at $70K and still nervous because I did 0 UA flying in 2016
If I am interpreting what you are saying correctly I did well over $70K PQD 3 years ago wtih UA buy only $43K on UA metal and did NOT get the invite out of SFO. Was I a bit surprised, sure. When they say it is based on UA metal dollars only they mean it. It looks like all your travel is *A??
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 11:40 am
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What I am saying is I am going to end 2018 with $70K UA metal spend. However, I had $0 UA metal spend in 2016 and am worried that will penalize me on GS qualification.
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Old Dec 4, 2018, 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by frequentUAflyer
What I am saying is I am going to end 2018 with $70K UA metal spend. However, I had $0 UA metal spend in 2016 and am worried that will penalize me on GS qualification.
What about 2017? Do you know that this year is 2018?
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