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GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion


This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread

To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.

Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.

Definitions

BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.

The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.

Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using

PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS

Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.

As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.

One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.

rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.

Originally Posted by sgopal2
Hello:

To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.

Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks

LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit

View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 7:31 pm
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Join Date: Jan 2018
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When will the 2019 notifications start?

Hoping I make it
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Old Nov 2, 2018, 9:58 pm
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Yep , that’s all UA metal. If I add in Air Canada it’s over 62k.
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Old Nov 3, 2018, 2:52 pm
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Join Date: Jan 2008
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Looks like my wife is going to end up this year:

$74K PQD ($60K in premium intl cabins)
160K BIS
65 PQS
250K PQMs

SFO-based

Previous years a lot less (like $5-10K PQD)

Nevertheless I'm thinking her chances are pretty good. Thoughts?
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by Boghopper
Looks like my wife is going to end up this year:

$74K PQD ($60K in premium intl cabins)
160K BIS
65 PQS
250K PQMs

SFO-based

Previous years a lot less (like $5-10K PQD)

Nevertheless I'm thinking her chances are pretty good. Thoughts?
Even with international distances 160K BIS in a year is a lot.

She should be set as long as those are all UA metal flights.
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by LIH
Even with international distances 160K BIS in a year is a lot.
High BIS is not a positive GS consideration. It's all about the dollars.
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by Kacee
High BIS is not a positive GS consideration. It's all about the dollars.
Aye.
I'll end up with just short of 200,000 BIS miles for 2018, yet with under $30,000 PQD have no hope of making GS.
High BIS with low PQD is exactly who UA does NOT want to invite to join GS.
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by narvik
Aye.
I'll end up with just short of 200,000 BIS miles for 2018, yet with under $30,000 PQD have no hope of making GS.
High BIS with low PQD is exactly who UA does NOT want to invite to join GS.
If you flew triple that distance and had $60K PQD... I bet you'd make it.

Anyway, after you fly 4,000,000 like that, they will give it to you (for the rest of your life).... out of pure pity, I would assume.
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 10:42 am
  #173  
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Jersey City, NJ
Programs: UA GS, AA Exec Plat, Bonvoy Ambassador, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 348
I've been GS 2 years in a row, but unsure if I'm going to re-qual for 2019

Currently at:
PQD: $47,000
PQM: 250,000
PQS: 111
Base: EWR

My travel plans for the remainder of the year are sort of up in the air, but I think i'll get close to $55,000
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 11:15 am
  #174  
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Originally Posted by Kacee
High BIS is not a positive GS consideration. It's all about the dollars.
I know that. Was more just remarking on that statistic as a stand-alone.
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 11:28 am
  #175  
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Pacific
Programs: UA GS, Lifetime 4 MM, BA Gold, , Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite, Marriott Ambassador Elite
Posts: 476
Just finished booking the remainder of my trips for the year (I hope this is it):
PQD: $120K
PQM: 900K
PQS: 120
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 11:30 am
  #176  
 
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Originally Posted by narvik
Aye.
I'll end up with just short of 200,000 BIS miles for 2018, yet with under $30,000 PQD have no hope of making GS.
High BIS with low PQD is exactly who UA does NOT want to invite to join GS.
Gotta disagree with that. PQD obviously does matter. But the last few years' spreadsheets and my own experience indicate the BIS don't help or hurt. I've averaged around 200K BIS, with $38K to $48K in spend and have consistently gotten in.
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by porciuscato
Gotta disagree with that. PQD obviously does matter. But the last few years' spreadsheets and my own experience indicate the BIS don't help or hurt. I've averaged around 200K BIS, with $38K to $48K in spend and have consistently gotten in.
That's interesting (and surprising to me), especially the $38,000 @ 200,000 miles..
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 11:42 am
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Low cost per mile question.

Originally Posted by porciuscato
Gotta disagree with that. PQD obviously does matter. But the last few years' spreadsheets and my own experience indicate the BIS don't help or hurt. I've averaged around 200K BIS, with $38K to $48K in spend and have consistently gotten in.

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Old Nov 5, 2018, 12:27 pm
  #179  
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Originally Posted by porciuscato
Gotta disagree with that. PQD obviously does matter. But the last few years' spreadsheets and my own experience indicate the BIS don't help or hurt. I've averaged around 200K BIS, with $38K to $48K in spend and have consistently gotten in.
Originally Posted by Rocketman1

At end of October I had $73K PQD and 618,000 PQM. Will finish year at ~$76,200 PQD and 633,000 PQM. Any chance given low cost per mile?
Majority of flights have been P and Z with a few J class fare basis. Currently have 288 PQS. Never been GS.
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Old Nov 5, 2018, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Rocketman1

Just curious... what were your previous year(s) stats?
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