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GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion


This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread

To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.

Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.

Definitions

BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.

The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.

Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using

PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS

Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.

As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.

One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.

rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.

Originally Posted by sgopal2
Hello:

To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.

Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks

LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit

View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 3:47 pm
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Originally Posted by findark
I'd say pretty weak at 46k PQD on the current year. Mid-50s I would guess gets a better shot.
I would think the r/t SFO-TLV J will put him/her right about there.
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 5:53 pm
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Originally Posted by aCavalierInCoach
I would think the r/t SFO-TLV J will put him/her right about there.
agreed, but 2017 numbers are a bit weak. Could go either and will depend on the price of the TLV ticket.
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by spartacusmcfly
That's beyond impressive. You've got to be top 10 globally for BIS miles. All the other metrics folks talk about can be 'bought'. BIS miles are hard earned as they take a toll on the body! Congrats!
Agreed.

I have a shot at 200K BIS miles this year (currently between 170K and 175K), With the exception of 6 flights, all 69 other flights were self-financed. Do I win anything as probably the only person without a top tier airline status anywhere?
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
Agreed.

I have a shot at 200K BIS miles this year (currently between 170K and 175K), With the exception of 6 flights, all 69 other flights were self-financed. Do I win anything as probably the only person without a top tier airline status anywhere?
You can commiserate with the folks in this older thread, Any other 3K non-GS's out there?
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by GSunitedloyal
467.5 BIS
Any special recognition from United?
They used to invite you for a one hour in a flight SIM in Denver, still doing that?
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by kittiyut
Any special recognition from United?
They used to invite you for a one hour in a flight SIM in Denver, still doing that?
they do quite bit! , I think my favorite one was the tour of the NOC, it was such an honor to be giving access to see where everything happens @ Willis Tower I told my wife to me that was like Christmas in May! they also got me on Connecting people and Uniting the world Video and must recent i am in the hemisphere magazine, actually is this month article!
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by Repooc17
Agreed.

I have a shot at 200K BIS miles this year (currently between 170K and 175K), With the exception of 6 flights, all 69 other flights were self-financed. Do I win anything as probably the only person without a top tier airline status anywhere?
Pretty much same boat here, this year and every other year. I always finish 150-200K BIS, 150 PQS and $35-40K PQD out of DEN. Perpetual 1K for me.
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 2:19 pm
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Originally Posted by limey1K
Pretty much same boat here, this year and every other year. I always finish 150-200K BIS, 150 PQS and $35-40K PQD out of DEN. Perpetual 1K for me.
I think there are a fair number of folks in this category. I was a perennial 1K for 25 years with one exception, when I made GS. But because I was loyal to UA, I reached lifetime GS status in mid 2016. Was it frustrating, yes, but I’m convinced the cut-off for GS is driven by a percentage target of top spenders. So unless you’re in that select group of high dollar spenders it’s low probability you’ll be invited. At the end of 2015 I had flown 250K BIS miles on UA metal but only accumulated about 34K in PQD. I had roughly 3.9M lifetime miles and asked for a review when I wasn’t invited for 2016. My appeal was rejected so it wasn’t until May of 2016, when I hit 4M miles that I finally made GS. It’s always been about the high dollar flyers, IMHO.
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 6:38 pm
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I am not even 1K. I just travel on a lot of different airlines.

Back to GS qualifying discussion...
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 8:36 pm
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I’m sorry to bring this up again as I know I have seen this on other posts, however I can not find them right now.

Question is... Do smaller airports such as SAT tend/seem to have lower qualification standards?
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 5:25 am
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Originally Posted by cbkn76
I’m sorry to bring this up again as I know I have seen this on other posts, however I can not find them right now.

Question is... Do smaller airports such as SAT tend/seem to have lower qualification standards?
The thought is it is lower than a Hub, but nothing concrete to prove that. SAT is my home airport and I don't think there are many GS. I qualified this year, but had a higher spend (~64k)... the year before when I had ~40k I didn't qualify.
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 7:13 am
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Originally Posted by John Aldeborgh

I think there are a fair number of folks in this category. I was a perennial 1K for 25 years with one exception, when I made GS. But because I was loyal to UA, I reached lifetime GS status in mid 2016. Was it frustrating, yes, but I’m convinced the cut-off for GS is driven by a percentage target of top spenders. So unless you’re in that select group of high dollar spenders it’s low probability you’ll be invited. At the end of 2015 I had flown 250K BIS miles on UA metal but only accumulated about 34K in PQD. I had roughly 3.9M lifetime miles and asked for a review when I wasn’t invited for 2016. My appeal was rejected so it wasn’t until May of 2016, when I hit 4M miles that I finally made GS. It’s always been about the high dollar flyers, IMHO.
I am highly likely to have this story as well when I'm 25 years into it. I have been 1K for 9 years (100-175K BIS) running but generally with spends from $25-45K. Made GS once when I was in a non-hub market. While I could see some more international travel move me into the $50-60K range, I will never have a "low" BIS figure attached to that so my yield will probably keep me out of GS contention with an ORD base.
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by cbkn76
I’m sorry to bring this up again as I know I have seen this on other posts, however I can not find them right now.

Question is... Do smaller airports such as SAT tend/seem to have lower qualification standards?
Probably, based on the spreadsheets from the last couple of years.
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by jp12687
going to end the year right around:

$45k PQD (all UA except $200 flown on Air Canada)
50 PQS
235 PQM

Based out of EWR
I will be almost identical 190PQM $47k spend 50 PQS (on united)... about $5-7k more on united tickets on star alliance metal...

I have been between $30-40 k last 2 years...mostly out of EWR

We will see...assuming nothing as always.. I'm OK in any case get taken care of pretty good.

YTJK
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by spartacusmcfly
That's beyond impressive. You've got to be top 10 globally for BIS miles. All the other metrics folks talk about can be 'bought'. BIS miles are hard earned as they take a toll on the body! Congrats!
Ua used to have for a couple of years akind of 300k club, I got letters from somebody for a couple of years ...went away after that
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