Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > United Airlines | MileagePlus
Reload this Page >

Changes to UA's Fare Classes (19-20 October 2018)

Old Oct 22, 2018, 6:09 pm
FlyerTalk Forums Expert How-Tos and Guides
Last edit by: drewguy
Originally Posted by UA Insider
Hello – We would like to share some information that will help answer some of your questions. We're continuing to roll out our signature United Polaris® direct-aisle-access seating, adding at least one aircraft with United Polaris seating every 10 days on average from now through 2020.To support this effort, we performed a system update this past weekend to redefine some of our cabin booking classes, which includes no longer offering United Polaris first class. As a result, any United Polaris first class tickets will now be designated as United Polaris business class. We will be reaching out to all customers impacted by these changes.We’ve also re-aligned some of our booking codes. Notably, you’ll see that we aren’t using F, A classes anymore, and R and RN, which were upgrade classes before, is now PZ. PZ has the same availability as the booking codes it replaced.Premium cabin booking codes for United domestic and international flights are now as follows:
  • Revenue: J, C, D, Z, P
  • Award: JN, ZN, IN, I
  • Upgrade: PN, PZ


Thanks,

- UA Insider
Below is a list of the changes that may commonly affect reservation practices:
  • R/RN for upgrades has been replaced by PZ
    • suggest: search for PZ space
  • F, A fare classes have been removed
    • suggest: no known workaround yet for 016- ticketing F or A on partners? (google flights may work?)
  • O, ON fare classes have been removed
    • suggest: --
  • PN is still used for GS upgrades and 1K Instant Upgrades

Summary of Current Fare Codes (thanks jgreen1024)
Revenue buckets (PQM earnings)
J - Full Fare Business (300%)
C - Full Fare Business (200%)
D - Full Fare Business (200%)
Z - Discount Business (200%)
P - Deep Discount Business (150%)

Y - Full Fare Coach (150%)
B - Full Fare Coach (150%)
M - Discount Coach (100%)
E - Discount Coach (100%)
U - Discount Coach (100%)
H - Discount Coach (100%)
Q - Discount Coach (100%)
V - Discount Coach (100%)
W - Deep Discount Coach (100%)
S - Deep Discount Coach (100%)
T - Deep Discount Coach (100%)
L - Deep Discount Coach (100%)
K - Deep Discount Coach (100%)
G - Deep Discount Coach (100%)

N - Basic Economy (0%)

Saver Award Seats
IN - Elite Saver Business Award
I - Saver Business Award
XN - Elite Saver Coach Award
X - Saver Coach Award

Standard Award Seats
JN - Elite/CC Business Award
ZN - Business Award
YN - Elite/CC Coach Award

Upgrade Awards
PN - GS upgrade, Instant upgrade for 1K
PZ - Upgrade to Business/Domestic F
Print Wikipost

Changes to UA's Fare Classes (19-20 October 2018)

Old Oct 19, 2018, 7:10 pm
  #31  
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
Programs: UA MileagePlus Premier Platinum
Posts: 1,352
I hope they're not doing schedule changes tonight.
gusd is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 7:11 pm
  #32  
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: BA Bronze, United 1K, HH Gold, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 3,477
Originally Posted by findark
Covered extensively here -- mods, maybe worth forking out the thread? It's going to be a big deal with a lot of IT hiccups as we go forward.

eta. database migrations have commenced. I now have a segment in United Polaris business (PZ).
Weird. For my last International long haul for November, in one direction it's R and the other direction is PZ. Both directions were upgraded months ago from a W fare.
StuckinITH is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 7:12 pm
  #33  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K MM, JL JMB SAPPHIRE, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,267
Looks like F/A are already gone on some flights.
gokeeper is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 7:19 pm
  #34  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Hyatt Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Honolulu, Hawaiʻi [+MKK4 EBBER R577 EDSEL R577 ELKEY EXERT]
Posts: 15,826
Wonder if we'll be able to see PZ in expert mode after these changes... Just like how we are able to see people upgraded before OLCI opens after tweaks there. Wait.
slippahs is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 7:31 pm
  #35  
SPG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: UA*1K, Marriott Titanium (LTP), Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,665
Originally Posted by StuckinITH
Weird. For my last International long haul for November, in one direction it's R and the other direction is PZ. Both directions were upgraded months ago from a W fare.
Yes, looks like they're doing the migration in batches (which is good), as I have the exact same behavior for a TPAC in March. Outgoing in R, return in PZ, both from a W fare. No need to worry until they say they're "complete", and then we need to be paranoid on every existing reservation we have
Absolute is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 7:33 pm
  #36  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,353
Originally Posted by Absolute
I'm happy it works for you, but if I specify a W fare class under advanced search, it shows no availability for "Requested fare class".
There very well might not be W availability on your particular route and date, but that can always be true. They don't offer W in every market, and it can always be zeroed out even when it's offered. Your message implied that they had pulled all W inventory and/or fares during this migration process. That isn't true.

Originally Posted by slippahs
Wonder if we'll be able to see PZ in expert mode after these changes... Just like how we are able to see people upgraded before OLCI opens after tweaks there. Wait.
Hiding PZ would make it very easy for me to decide about re-qualifying for 1K...
jsloan is online now  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 7:40 pm
  #37  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: 4éme
Posts: 12,018
Seat assignments must only affect mainline flights. Using the app i was able to select a seat on a UX flight but not on my TATL leg.
TomMM is online now  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 7:51 pm
  #38  
SPG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: UA*1K, Marriott Titanium (LTP), Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,665
Originally Posted by jsloan
There very well might not be W availability on your particular route and date, but that can always be true. They don't offer W in every market, and it can always be zeroed out even when it's offered. Your message implied that they had pulled all W inventory and/or fares during this migration process. That isn't true..
Agreed, W inventory is not pulled, but the search behavior is not working properly - as a logged in user, I can't see any W fares. Period, pick your route and date - and the routes I was searching for were available with the GPU Upgrade tool right up until the maintenance started.

If I log out, I see Basic Economy on domestic routes (which I don't see as a logged in user), and W fares as a guest. If I log in during such a search, it _does_ show availability for my W fare class, but only for that route I was searching for when I logged in. It doesn't seem to work for a multi-city search, logged in or out. So, perhaps my account, or a warning to those looking to book an upgradable fare that the system is... temperamental.
Absolute is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 8:56 pm
  #39  
SPG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: UA*1K, Marriott Titanium (LTP), Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,665
Originally Posted by TomMM
Seat assignments must only affect mainline flights. Using the app i was able to select a seat on a UX flight but not on my TATL leg.
I had a similar experience - but booking online. Just made a new booking, and YOW-EWR (UX) gave me a seat selection chart during payment (and kept it), while the mainline flights (and Mesa) were offline.

That flight was a " ExpressJet Airlines Inc. dba United Express", while I can't see the chart for my return "Mesa Airlines dba United Express." flight (IAD-YOW).

Edit: Sure enough, I can still see the chart and make changes for my existing reseveration online for ExpressJet, but not Mesa.
Absolute is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 8:59 pm
  #40  
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: Mileage Plus Global Services 2MM
Posts: 1,200
Originally Posted by gokeeper
Looks like F/A are already gone on some flights.
In that spirit I just checked a PNR where I had A bucket booked for 2 segments and 2 for Z. The A segments show "A.... coach". The Z segments are fine. I'll be curious what bucket the former A shows once the dust settles.
bluedemon211 is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 9:23 pm
  #41  
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K MM, JL JMB SAPPHIRE, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,267
Originally Posted by bluedemon211
In that spirit I just checked a PNR where I had A bucket booked for 2 segments and 2 for Z. The A segments show "A.... coach". The Z segments are fine. I'll be curious what bucket the former A shows once the dust settles.
I believe A will be used for PP cabin, and most likely your current A booking will map to J or C.
gokeeper is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 9:29 pm
  #42  
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Programs: Mileage Plus Global Services 2MM
Posts: 1,200
Originally Posted by gokeeper
I believe A will be used for PP cabin, and most likely your current A booking will map to J or C.
That would be my expectation as well. I'll post how it turns out tomorrow.
bluedemon211 is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 9:38 pm
  #43  
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: LAS
Programs: Delta Gold Medallion
Posts: 258
Originally Posted by jsloan
There very well might not be W availability on your particular route and date, but that can always be true. They don't offer W in every market, and it can always be zeroed out even when it's offered. Your message implied that they had pulled all W inventory and/or fares during this migration process. That isn't true.


Hiding PZ would make it very easy for me to decide about re-qualifying for 1K...
Hiding PZ from expert mode would make it very easy for me to decide not to fly UA. International upgrades are the only reason I use miles. Being able to see the inventory in expert mode helps me to know the actual dates I need to choose to get a mileage upgrade since I am flexible with dates.
1P, jsloan, gokeeper and 1 others like this.
G702TT is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 9:52 pm
  #44  
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 127
Originally Posted by G702TT
Hiding PZ from expert mode would make it very easy for me to decide not to fly UA. International upgrades are the only reason I use miles. Being able to see the inventory in expert mode helps me to know the actual dates I need to choose to get a mileage upgrade since I am flexible with dates.
Same thoughts here. Checking a few TPAC flights in expert mode shows the removal of R but PZ is nowhere to be found. It better be there by tomorrow morning otherwise it may be my last year as a 1K for the same reasons as you.
WakeTurbulence is offline  
Old Oct 19, 2018, 10:08 pm
  #45  
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Boston MA
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott T, HH D, IHG SA.
Posts: 150
Domestic F/A already gone... PZ didn't show up under expert mode
jackexu is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.