Protection when connecting from award to paid ticket?
Oct 19, 2018, 7:04 pm
#16
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Two weeks ago I flew FRA-ORD and there were UA agents in the jet bridge handing out orange priority vouchers to specific people with tight connections. Couldn't figure out what "priority" service they were receiving. Fast track through immigration? Private transportation to T1?
Oct 19, 2018, 7:13 pm
#17
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2:10 is fine for the IAD connection.
It is better because it is a connection. If OS arrives late and you misconnect, OS will not only rebook you the next day, but because it is an EU departure, OS will have a duty of care to cover your hotel & meals and may, depending on the reason for the delay, owe EUR 600 in EC 261/2004 delay compensation.
It is better because it is a connection. If OS arrives late and you misconnect, OS will not only rebook you the next day, but because it is an EU departure, OS will have a duty of care to cover your hotel & meals and may, depending on the reason for the delay, owe EUR 600 in EC 261/2004 delay compensation.
Oct 19, 2018, 7:25 pm
#18
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IAD vs ORD
I was just now able to find award availability on the following day connecting in IAD (Austrian to United) and would have a 2:10 connection. It would connect to the last flight of the day but would at least be all on one ticket and save the expense of purchasing the domestic leg.
I assume this would be a better option? I'm not familiar with IAD at all.
Thanks again for your help!
I assume this would be a better option? I'm not familiar with IAD at all.
Thanks again for your help!
Last edited by npei; Oct 19, 2018 at 7:33 pm
Oct 19, 2018, 11:04 pm
#19
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Gotta disagree with a lot of the advice (though admittedly ORD is not the best for connections rn):
-OS flight usually on time
-ORD T5 with GE arrival at furthest gate 10-15 min walk to GE kiosk;
-Wait for bags 25-45 minutes
-Hand off GE slip to customs officer, walk to bag check 3 minutes
- Wait for now more frequent shuttle 5-15 minutes
-OS flight usually on time
-ORD T5 with GE arrival at furthest gate 10-15 min walk to GE kiosk;
-Wait for bags 25-45 minutes
-Hand off GE slip to customs officer, walk to bag check 3 minutes
- Wait for now more frequent shuttle 5-15 minutes
- Shuttle 15-20 minutes
-TSA Pre at T1 6 minutes
- Walking to furthest C gate 12 minutes
Total gate to gate time 1hr16min to 1hr56min.
-TSA Pre at T1 6 minutes
- Walking to furthest C gate 12 minutes
Total gate to gate time 1hr16min to 1hr56min.
Oct 20, 2018, 1:51 pm
#20
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Which leaves no room for unanticipated delays or problems. People aren't saying this can't be done, they're saying it's a poor idea on separate tickets because there is insufficient cushion.
When you're booking separate tix, you don't ask yourself "is this theoretically possible?"; you ask, "have I left a reasonable cushion in case something goes wrong so I don't wind up having to buy a walk-up fare and/or being forced to overnight at my own expense?"
When you're booking separate tix, you don't ask yourself "is this theoretically possible?"; you ask, "have I left a reasonable cushion in case something goes wrong so I don't wind up having to buy a walk-up fare and/or being forced to overnight at my own expense?"
Oct 20, 2018, 2:05 pm
#21
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Gotta disagree with a lot of the advice (though admittedly ORD is not the best for connections rn):
-OS flight usually on time
-ORD T5 with GE arrival at furthest gate 10-15 min walk to GE kiosk;
-Wait for bags 25-45 minutes
-Hand off GE slip to customs officer, walk to bag check 3 minutes
- Wait for now more frequent shuttle 5-15 minutes
-OS flight usually on time
-ORD T5 with GE arrival at furthest gate 10-15 min walk to GE kiosk;
-Wait for bags 25-45 minutes
-Hand off GE slip to customs officer, walk to bag check 3 minutes
- Wait for now more frequent shuttle 5-15 minutes
- Shuttle 15-20 minutes
-TSA Pre at T1 6 minutes
- Walking to furthest C gate 12 minutes
Total gate to gate time 1hr16min to 1hr56min.
-TSA Pre at T1 6 minutes
- Walking to furthest C gate 12 minutes
Total gate to gate time 1hr16min to 1hr56min.
And last time I went through ORD, the line to give the GE slip was 10 minutes.
Oct 20, 2018, 3:26 pm
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Gotta disagree with a lot of the advice (though admittedly ORD is not the best for connections rn):
-OS flight usually on time
-ORD T5 with GE arrival at furthest gate 10-15 min walk to GE kiosk;
-Wait for bags 25-45 minutes
-Hand off GE slip to customs officer, walk to bag check 3 minutes
- Wait for now more frequent shuttle 5-15 minutes
-OS flight usually on time
-ORD T5 with GE arrival at furthest gate 10-15 min walk to GE kiosk;
-Wait for bags 25-45 minutes
-Hand off GE slip to customs officer, walk to bag check 3 minutes
- Wait for now more frequent shuttle 5-15 minutes
- Shuttle 15-20 minutes
-TSA Pre at T1 6 minutes
- Walking to furthest C gate 12 minutes
Total gate to gate time 1hr16min to 1hr56min.
-TSA Pre at T1 6 minutes
- Walking to furthest C gate 12 minutes
Total gate to gate time 1hr16min to 1hr56min.
The question of which one is "better" is one of risk tolerance. Both are doable. It is the consequences of the doable not working in the specific situation that matter.
Oct 21, 2018, 8:09 am
#23
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Thanks again for the responses. I do though want to confirm something: the reviews below make connecting at IAD sound like a nightmare. Is all of the griping in the reviews moot if I have Global Entry? And is there really no Pre-Check at the security after customs to get into the domestic terminal?
https://www.airlinequality.com/airpo...ulles-airport/
I see that it is much better to have the protection of a single ticket, but connecting to the last flight of the evening always make me nervous (especially when reading these reports of insane waiting times at immigration/customs). But if that won't affect me with GE then I won't worry
https://www.airlinequality.com/airpo...ulles-airport/
I see that it is much better to have the protection of a single ticket, but connecting to the last flight of the evening always make me nervous (especially when reading these reports of insane waiting times at immigration/customs). But if that won't affect me with GE then I won't worry