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sbm12

There is the HA LAS-HNL westbound redeye flight. Maybe this is suggesting UA will do something similar, though that seems unlikely to me, at least not in volume.

Kacee

Rebanking at DEN. Announced months ago. United Airlines Rebanking Hub Schedule at Houston/Chicago Pays Off

IAH-OIL-TRASH

I hope Oscar got to saw all the plywood that is currently the interior of UA's Diamond Head terminal. The Honolulu airport has been a hub of corruption and incompetence for years. Even the process to set up an airport authority is probably underlain by figuring out a way to keep things the way they really are.

CO DCA

I honestly can't think of a U.S. airport that is more of a disaster. It amazes me that Hawaii's economy is so dependent on tourism, and the front door looks like it was was nailed together out of plywood and scotch tape.

UA_Flyer

HNL and IAD are 1A and 1B.

HNLbasedFlyer

That is indeed a curious statement - I wondered if it is misquoted.

The 2am LAS-HNL in my opinion is a very unique flight catering almost exclusively to Hawaii locals. It lands at 5am - which is fine if you live here, you drive home.

I don't see that working for SFO, LAX - even EWR (leave 2am, arrive 6am). If I'm a tourist landing at 5am, 6am - with a bunch of suitcases, maybe even with kids, where am I supposed to go? Hotel occupancy is off the charts especially on Oahu so the chance of you checking in early is very small unless you want to pay an extra night hotel - and hotels aren't cheap here.

On the flip side, I'm sure UA hates the planes that park overnight for several hours for the early LAX/SFO flights and they want to increase utilization - flying in an overnight mainland flight mitigates that.

amtrakusa

SFO sometimes has 5 or 6 departures to HNL on any given day, no harm to shift schedule a bit to increase marginal flying. For every family out there who abhors morning arrival, there will be another pair of active couple who appreciates morning arrival and the saved cost with one less night of hotel.

halls120

tarheelnj

Insanely long line outside the building for an early morning departure back in June. I don't know what people do when it rains. Thank goodness for the PreCheck lane, which was practically empty.

COSPILOT

I used to do same day turns DEN-HNL-DEN for meetings, which hasn't been as practical recently. Not that I have a need for it now, but earlier departures from DEN sounds good. Hawaii is very unique for business coverage, as there isn't enough to justify a full time person in Hawaii, but if it's part of one's territory, it's also annoying to waist days for the little revenue that comes from it. I'd rather do a same day turn, saving hotel expense, etc.

My vacations are secondary, and much like early arrival into SYD or MEL, I'll deal with that as needed.

Wx4caster

Perhaps it's part of the overall zoning plan to complement the street-lined "housing" along the thoroughfares of Kakaako and downtown I'm just amazed that a new Diamond Head Terminal is still just "in planning". Just exactly what is the plan if the current DHT is being gutted and re-furbished as we speak? Finish updating then tear it down a week later to make room for a new terminal? Elsewhere, it seems construction is in full swing, at least as much as can be expected here, with the commuter terminal now completely demo'd and the massive structure going up in what used to be the rental car surface lot. Not to mention the guiderails for our $15B future running track, I mean light rail, is steadily progressing past the Pearl Harbor-Hickam interchange heading toward the airport.

2stepbay

I sure have. Right up there with 3rd world airports.

IAH-OIL-TRASH

3Cforme

It seems very improbable to me - for the reasons you cited. I can't imagine westbound yields would be anything but junk, junk, junk. How many westbound redeyes do we see from Europe? (Zero is the answer, I believe.)