1.5x PQM for P fare?
Aug 29, 2018, 11:56 am
#16
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If this is indeed a new policy it will certainly inhibit my future purchase of UA P fares unless they are extremely good deals. Maybe that's it-they're lowering P fares so they have to lower the PQM earning rate (unlikely in the extreme).
Aug 29, 2018, 12:01 pm
#17
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I can kind of understand why they'd want to lower the PQM earning on P fares. Think about it for just a second, those flying in discount P are earning the same milage as those flying in regular fare C,D,J,Z fares! My prediction is P will lower to 150%, normal and full fare first/business will remain at current levels (i.e. 200% and 300%). Here's to hoping UA doesn't pull an AC and lower PQM accrual for deep discount Y fares. That was one of the reasons why I choose UA over OZ and A3 for milage accrual.
-James
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Aug 29, 2018, 12:09 pm
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I can kind of understand why they'd want to lower the PQM earning on P fares. Think about it for just a second, those flying in discount P are earning the same milage as those flying in regular fare C,D,J,Z fares! My prediction is P will lower to 150%, normal and full fare first/business will remain at current levels (i.e. 200% and 300%). Here's to hoping UA doesn't pull an AC and lower PQM accrual for deep discount Y fares. That was one of the reasons why I choose UA over OZ and A3 for milage accrual.
-James
-James
With UA, I've been able to abuse bargain-basement fares for PQMs, which is really the only reason (combined with P-fare availability) that I was able to get this far...
It always seemed too good to be true. P fares on NH accrue just 70% after all, while L,K fares accrue 30%.
If this P fare enhancement is followed by other changes, it looks like my future life as 1K will be very short-lived...
Aug 29, 2018, 12:13 pm
#19
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One of the LH-group airlines -- I think it was OS -- will earn 0 PQMs on P fares.Keep in mind, the 200/300% earning chart is new within the last few years. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see UA adjust it downward if they feel that it's served its purpose. It's already more generous than Delta. (It does match AA).
Aug 29, 2018, 12:32 pm
#21
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This has to be a website/IT error given all the rollout issues with the new site. Various MP data displays have always been weird, though. Lufthansa Cityline always reads "ineligible," the amounts of miles shown in different places aren't as promised, etc. etc.
Aug 29, 2018, 12:38 pm
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-James
Aug 29, 2018, 1:14 pm
#23
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PQM may be more restrictive than DL/AA. But both DL and AA allow earning PQD on partner airlines on non-006/001 tickets which UA doesn't. If UA lowers earning for P fares, I hope to see PQD earning on non-016 tickets.
Aug 29, 2018, 2:10 pm
#24
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When I was flying PE on BA, I was getting more of those points counting for status than Economy (and obviously less than Business). The TODs (or whatever it is called there) were also giving additional points counting for status.
Aug 29, 2018, 4:16 pm
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Nothing has changed on the website. While I could easily see PY earning 150% and discounted PY earning 100%, I can't see discounted business earning 150% when full fare business is earning 300%. Also to correct an error upthread about NH, P class on NH earns 200% not 70%.
Aug 29, 2018, 4:35 pm
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Nothing has changed on the website. While I could easily see PY earning 150% and discounted PY earning 100%, I can't see discounted business earning 150% when full fare business is earning 300%. Also to correct an error upthread about NH, P class on NH earns 200% not 70%.
Aug 29, 2018, 4:50 pm
#27
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Remember that United is free and clear to change the MileagePlus earnings charts AT ANY TIME and make them effective immediately or at any point in the future. Whatever your receipt says is not a guarantee of earning that PQM. But I'm sure if you complained to UA that you booked the flights with the expectation of earning 2x PQM that they would manually credit your account.
If UA is going to change the earnings of P fares from 200% to 150% PQM then I would expect an announcement soon. It likely would be effective January 1.
-RM
If UA is going to change the earnings of P fares from 200% to 150% PQM then I would expect an announcement soon. It likely would be effective January 1.
-RM
Aug 29, 2018, 5:24 pm
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That would be my conclusion. UA's not going to change earnings without changing the earnings' chart.
Aug 29, 2018, 5:29 pm
#29
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1.5x PQM for P fare
Another data point---looking at LHR/SFO P fares next May different PQM (1.5 or 2.0) were shown on the same day depending on which non stop I was reviewing but there was no consistency (1.5 for P on early flight one day 2.0 for the same flight the next day)!! Looks like a tech problem at this stage
Aug 29, 2018, 5:37 pm
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-James