United Splitting up Families (Basic Economy ticket)
#91
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We travel with our kids, and traveling with kids can be a bear, so I'm generally happy to help others, and I am willing to move (sometimes to a less desirable seat) to help a family sit together.
You (and others) seem to be blaming United for something that was not United's fault. There are four thousand things that we can blame on United, but this isn't one of them.
The expectation seems to be that United should have programmed in some mechanism (that I do not think any other US airline has) that denies its cheapest fares to families. I'm all for that, but I don't think United is alone in not having it.
#92
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That is a very easy one. The family is asked to deplane because they cannot comply with the safety requirements of the airplane.
#93
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I've been the decent one and moved to help a mom and kids, but really, is it my job to get screwed for lack of planning on someone else's part? Your family member is at fault, assuming family trumps all, and I say that as I travel with my wife and kids. We plan for everything, not just airplanes, but hotels as well, heck even the car rental. Should I give up my large SUV rental that I reserved for the poor woman that booked a sub compact rental?
#95
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Yup, a whole forum devoted to that right here on FT.
#97
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keep parents and kids together, it's better for EVERYONE
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 28, 2018 at 11:49 am Reason: snarky comment removed
#98
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#99
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All passengers are required to be able to follow crew members' instructions, and during boarding it will be apparent that an unaccompanied 2 year old cannot do that.
Some people want to fly from A to B as cheaply as they possibly can. United responded to that demand by offering hugely restricted (yet not wildly different that Southwest/Spirit/etc) fares.
United even puts up big pictures and graphics when you are trying to buy these very restricted fares.
However, none of that protects United from the stupidity/laziness/ineptness of us, the flying public, so now we are mad that they did not proactively program in restrictions that do not allow people to purchase a particular ticket if someone in their party is below some age at which we'll all disagree.
I know it shouldn't have gotten this far on this flight, and undoubtedly the kindness of strangers would have (and did) rule the day, but if United had this restriction, we already would have seen the "United is discriminating against families" post here.
Some people want to fly from A to B as cheaply as they possibly can. United responded to that demand by offering hugely restricted (yet not wildly different that Southwest/Spirit/etc) fares.
United even puts up big pictures and graphics when you are trying to buy these very restricted fares.
However, none of that protects United from the stupidity/laziness/ineptness of us, the flying public, so now we are mad that they did not proactively program in restrictions that do not allow people to purchase a particular ticket if someone in their party is below some age at which we'll all disagree.
I know it shouldn't have gotten this far on this flight, and undoubtedly the kindness of strangers would have (and did) rule the day, but if United had this restriction, we already would have seen the "United is discriminating against families" post here.
#100
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oh and hey the parents knew what they were doing. they simply wanted a free babysitter for the duration of the flight!
#101
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Honestly, UA should block off seats at the back of the airplane for assignment at the gate, which would limit this sort of problem.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 28, 2018 at 11:50 am Reason: quote updated to reflect Moderator edit
#102
Join Date: Nov 2015
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The two-year-old never should have been boarded there in the first place, for the reasons already stated. I have to imagine even the most coldhearted, "free babysitter" parent would want to assist their toddler in an emergency.
Honestly, UA should block off seats at the back of the airplane for assignment at the gate, which would limit this sort of problem.
Honestly, UA should block off seats at the back of the airplane for assignment at the gate, which would limit this sort of problem.
#104
Join Date: Nov 2015
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All passengers are required to be able to follow crew members' instructions, and during boarding it will be apparent that an unaccompanied 2 year old cannot do that.
Some people want to fly from A to B as cheaply as they possibly can. United responded to that demand by offering hugely restricted (yet not wildly different that Southwest/Spirit/etc) fares.
United even puts up big pictures and graphics when you are trying to buy these very restricted fares.
However, none of that protects United from the stupidity/laziness/ineptness of us, the flying public, so now we are mad that they did not proactively program in restrictions that do not allow people to purchase a particular ticket if someone in their party is below some age at which we'll all disagree.
I know it shouldn't have gotten this far on this flight, and undoubtedly the kindness of strangers would have (and did) rule the day, but if United had this restriction, we already would have seen the "United is discriminating against families" post here.
Some people want to fly from A to B as cheaply as they possibly can. United responded to that demand by offering hugely restricted (yet not wildly different that Southwest/Spirit/etc) fares.
United even puts up big pictures and graphics when you are trying to buy these very restricted fares.
However, none of that protects United from the stupidity/laziness/ineptness of us, the flying public, so now we are mad that they did not proactively program in restrictions that do not allow people to purchase a particular ticket if someone in their party is below some age at which we'll all disagree.
I know it shouldn't have gotten this far on this flight, and undoubtedly the kindness of strangers would have (and did) rule the day, but if United had this restriction, we already would have seen the "United is discriminating against families" post here.
#105
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 770
are you saying you agree with me that it's not ok? in that case we are in agreement; UA shouldn't sell BE tickets to families with children under a certain age (say 10?) or allow free seat selection.