Originally Posted by canadiancow
(Post 30163337)
Should the limit be "minors"?
I remember flying (presumably WN, but I can't recall) with my parents and a friend when I was around 16. None of us sat together. Two of us were minors. There was no issue there. No one cared. Obviously a 2 year old needs to sit with someone, but it's not clear whether a 16 year old, 12 year old, or 8 year old does. |
Originally Posted by newtothis1
(Post 30163232)
Airlines with BE fares should have pop up questions during online purchase “ Are you traveling with minors” . If pax chooses yes, then message should display you are not eligible for this fare” and the next category option provided. This should prevent some of the entitlement and clueless issues. |
Originally Posted by joe_miami
(Post 30163352)
Certainly no older than 8. The idea that 8-year-olds are in danger while sitting between two strangers on a packed plane is just loony tunes. They're in vastly more danger at school.
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Originally Posted by Lostintravel
(Post 30163141)
Air france, I think you nailed about masks. I remember someone mentioned that last year. Uh and may be that's why on an another flight when I bought a seat I didn't get it. In in my situation while I kept the BE tickets I bought the seats for 4 of us. Though my wife argued it's unlikely that they would seat our minors away from parents. Well good to know that's actually a case. |
Originally Posted by USA_flyer
(Post 30160992)
That's a whole bunch of assumptions, you have no idea how UA allocates seats that are not already allocated. If there were no seats available to keep the family together at the time of booking UA should not have sold the tickets.
And there may well have been seats available for the family to be seated together when the tickets were bought -- if the OP's sister had chosen to pay the fees for those seats. The options to sit together were likely there (either through buying a higher fare or paying seat fees). The fact that they were declined was a clear indication that the purchaser either didn't think they were worth the price -- or thought they could obtain the benefits without paying the price. I have no doubt that if UA began to force people on the same PNR to sit together, there would be a thread on FT complaining about the practice. |
Originally Posted by StuckinITH
(Post 30163408)
Not surprised it's Air France since I googled those words: "seat selection not available traveling with an infant" and in a few seconds it was all about Air France. I would also have expected BA. But here's the thing. You are flying Air France which does not have domestic flights inside the US so why are you making comments on this United thread? This thread is about passengers with kids purchasing Basic Economy and gaming the system by forcing a nice gentleman to give up his aisle seat.
United Basic Economy Fare Rules Restrictions include:
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Originally Posted by Lostintravel
(Post 30164476)
They bought tickets through Expedia not through United, a normal person would assume that a family would be seated together because that's always used to be a case. I bought tickets for United and Air France via Expedia, so it's relevant. Let me show what Expedia said for United, not a word about not be able to seat together.
United Basic Economy Fare Rules Restrictions include:
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Originally Posted by seenitall
(Post 30164025)
Please enlighten me as to which of my particular assumptions is unwarranted?
And there may well have been seats available for the family to be seated together when the tickets were bought -- if the OP's sister had chosen to pay the fees for those seats. The options to sit together were likely there (either through buying a higher fare or paying seat fees). The fact that they were declined was a clear indication that the purchaser either didn't think they were worth the price -- or thought they could obtain the benefits without paying the price. I have no doubt that if UA began to force people on the same PNR to sit together, there would be a thread on FT complaining about the practice. |
Originally Posted by Lostintravel
(Post 30162877)
But nowhere it said the opposite. There is an assumption if you buy 4 seats for a family with minors that you will be seated together. I just went through the same, the only thing that Expedia said was that seat selection isn't available. Nothing about not be able to seat together. If for non-basic economy there is no guarantee you will be seated together. The problem is assumptions. Some people assume they will get a free meal on their flight, that doesn't mean they should get one. A friend (mother with 6yr old) recently told me it doesn't matter if the GA does not or cannot seat them together because no one will want to sit next to a crying kid, therefore they will always be accommodated once onboard. |
Typical, an adult doesn't take the time to do a tiny bit of research, picks a product that doesn't work well for their situation, and it's the airlines fault that things became tough. Then OP, tries to pull up a supposed law to throw in the agents face, is wrong about the law, and definitely doesn't help the situation.
I know this comes off as crude, but I am tired of hearing people spending hundreds of their own money not even taking 5 minutes to research what they are buying, and then blaming everyone else. |
Originally Posted by eng3
(Post 30165411)
Actually it does say very clearly that you are not guaranteed seats together.
A friend (mother with 6yr old) recently told me it doesn't matter if the GA does not or cannot seat them together because no one will want to sit next to a crying kid, therefore they will always be accommodated once onboard. |
Originally Posted by joe_miami
(Post 30162800)
And every time someone acquiesces to a seat-change request in these scenarios, it incentivizes the latter group to keep doing what they do.
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I often book flights 2-3 weeks out, and struggle to find decent seats for myself, let alone my family of 4. But that is my problem, not others. I put a few minutes of research into it and pick flights that will work. I'm sorry that OP's family member, or my cousin for that matter feel they are above everyone. Flights are going out full most of the time in this economy, and lacking status only makes things worse. Lack of preparation shouldn't hurt others, although I'm still a happy guy to help when asked nicely. My guess is this happens more often than reported, but rarely seen on FT. While I love to help families, a thread like this makes me question why I'm so generous.
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Originally Posted by USA_flyer
(Post 30164651)
I have no idea how UA assigns seats. And judging from your post neither do you.
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Originally Posted by seenitall
(Post 30166518)
Again, how can you be sure that I am wrong when you claim not to know anything about what is right?
The reason for this is that UA will automatically assign regular economy passengers seats during the booking process if E- seats are available. You used to be able to skip this, but it's gotten more and more difficult. It's not the least bit uncommon for regular economy passengers to be scattered in the back while BE passengers get E+. |
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