Is it rude to use premier benefits?
#76
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I do it almost all the time (board BG1 after it has cleared). Getting over head for me is often not an issue and I usually take the isle seat so why board early. I get some bad looks out of smaller airports but out of SFO most travelers there seems a bit more savvy and know the dance.
#77
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Last night boarding LAX-SIN: We had a slight delay, so I stayed at the UC until after the posted boarding time. I headed to the gate after receiving a push alert from UA that our flight was boarding. (Kudos to UA for this new feature).
When I arrived at the gate, group 3 was already boarding in the 2 lane. There were a few group 1 stragglers who entered the group 1 line, myself included. The GA was vigilantly protecting the integrity of the group 1 lane, asking us if we were in group 1 before scanning our boarding passes. After the man ahead of me boarded, the man at the front of the 2 lane walked up to the GA. She motioned to me, and asked if I was in group 1. If looks could kill. And all I could think about was this thread.
When I arrived at the gate, group 3 was already boarding in the 2 lane. There were a few group 1 stragglers who entered the group 1 line, myself included. The GA was vigilantly protecting the integrity of the group 1 lane, asking us if we were in group 1 before scanning our boarding passes. After the man ahead of me boarded, the man at the front of the 2 lane walked up to the GA. She motioned to me, and asked if I was in group 1. If looks could kill. And all I could think about was this thread.
#78
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When I arrived at the gate, group 3 was already boarding in the 2 lane. There were a few group 1 stragglers who entered the group 1 line, myself included. The GA was vigilantly protecting the integrity of the group 1 lane, asking us if we were in group 1 before scanning our boarding passes. After the man ahead of me boarded, the man at the front of the 2 lane walked up to the GA. She motioned to me, and asked if I was in group 1. If looks could kill. And all I could think about was this thread.
I've stood in-line with current boarding groups on several such occasions, despite being Group 1 eligible.
Won't always do this; but sometimes I just couldn't be bothered and am not in the mood to elicit the death-stares.
#79
Join Date: Nov 2017
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My preferred way of boarding is hang out in lounge, waiting 20 or so minutes before boarding starts, then casually stroll to the gate, walk up to the Priority lane and proceed to cut off the kettles and lurkers!
I'm getting too old to wait in queues, especially if it leads to a narrow metal tube that I'll be trapped in for several hours!
-James
I'm getting too old to wait in queues, especially if it leads to a narrow metal tube that I'll be trapped in for several hours!
-James
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#82
Join Date: Mar 2012
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Last night boarding LAX-SIN: We had a slight delay, so I stayed at the UC until after the posted boarding time. I headed to the gate after receiving a push alert from UA that our flight was boarding. (Kudos to UA for this new feature).
When I arrived at the gate, group 3 was already boarding in the 2 lane. There were a few group 1 stragglers who entered the group 1 line, myself included. The GA was vigilantly protecting the integrity of the group 1 lane, asking us if we were in group 1 before scanning our boarding passes. After the man ahead of me boarded, the man at the front of the 2 lane walked up to the GA. She motioned to me, and asked if I was in group 1. If looks could kill. And all I could think about was this thread.
When I arrived at the gate, group 3 was already boarding in the 2 lane. There were a few group 1 stragglers who entered the group 1 line, myself included. The GA was vigilantly protecting the integrity of the group 1 lane, asking us if we were in group 1 before scanning our boarding passes. After the man ahead of me boarded, the man at the front of the 2 lane walked up to the GA. She motioned to me, and asked if I was in group 1. If looks could kill. And all I could think about was this thread.
SYD->SFO inbound, making my way through with a few of my team members. They all had a little later flights to DEN, so we walked slowly. I got there when group 2 was just finishing up. I walked up and made eye contact with the agent, and she motioned me forward. The person in group 3 stepped in front of me and said "I'm in line ahead of you.". Awkward moment, where the GA stepped in said I was group 1 and should board first. The other person said "oh, so you are late getting here".
Of course this person boarded behind me, and then we go onto the jetway and wait behind a pile of people. They were just behind me. Maybe it was the pain of the already 14 hours of flying, but I finally couldn't hold it in - turned around and asked, "how do you know where I came from?" "Why do you know so much about when I arrive at the gate?" Certainly a DYKWIA moment, and I hope i would not do it again.
I will still always aim to get the attention of the GA and then proceed, no matter when I arrive. I think that's the only safe answer.
Last edited by katan; Aug 31, 2018 at 9:08 pm
#83
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If looks could kill. I've had the looks a few times, but had the one that I would not let it pass.
SYD->SFO inbound, making my way through with a few of my team members. They all had a little later flights to DEN, so we walked slowly. I got there when group 2 was just finishing up. I walked up and made eye contact with the agent, and she motioned me forward. The person in group 3 stepped in front of me and said "I'm in line ahead of you.". Awkward moment, where the GA stepped in said I was group 1 and should board first. The other person said "oh, so you are late getting here".
Of course this person boarded behind me, and then we go onto the jetway and wait behind a pile of people. They were just behind me. Maybe it was the pain of the already 14 hours of flying, but I finally couldn't hold it in - turned around and asked, "how do you know where I came from?" "Why do you know so much about when I arrive at the gate?" Certainly a DYKWIA moment, and I hope i would not do it again.
I will still always aim to get the attention of the GA and then proceed, no matter when I arrive. I think that's the only safe answer.
SYD->SFO inbound, making my way through with a few of my team members. They all had a little later flights to DEN, so we walked slowly. I got there when group 2 was just finishing up. I walked up and made eye contact with the agent, and she motioned me forward. The person in group 3 stepped in front of me and said "I'm in line ahead of you.". Awkward moment, where the GA stepped in said I was group 1 and should board first. The other person said "oh, so you are late getting here".
Of course this person boarded behind me, and then we go onto the jetway and wait behind a pile of people. They were just behind me. Maybe it was the pain of the already 14 hours of flying, but I finally couldn't hold it in - turned around and asked, "how do you know where I came from?" "Why do you know so much about when I arrive at the gate?" Certainly a DYKWIA moment, and I hope i would not do it again.
I will still always aim to get the attention of the GA and then proceed, no matter when I arrive. I think that's the only safe answer.
#84
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The business/status/economy lines all cleared out before I was called up. Even a few Y pax who entered their line after I entered the F line were served before I was.
But if that wasn't enough, when I was finally called, it was a rude "Are you Global Services?". No, actually, I'm not. I'm the other thing your sign says this line is for.
Once on AC, I actually called out to the agent who called someone up from a different line, and she said "I'm not serving priority". I don't think she understands the definition of priority. The guy behind me moved to the Y line, and he was served before me.
As a software engineer, I understand how priority queues work, and that you can't just ignore the Y line indefinitely. But when you get to a point where the front J pax has been waiting longer than the front Y pax, and you decide to call the Y pax, you need a lesson in queue management.
#85
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Ugh. I've had this happen dozens of times on AC, but even UA annoyed me once. I was booked in Global First SFO-LHR, and went into the GF check-in line.
The business/status/economy lines all cleared out before I was called up. Even a few Y pax who entered their line after I entered the F line were served before I was.
But if that wasn't enough, when I was finally called, it was a rude "Are you Global Services?". No, actually, I'm not. I'm the other thing your sign says this line is for.
Once on AC, I actually called out to the agent who called someone up from a different line, and she said "I'm not serving priority". I don't think she understands the definition of priority. The guy behind me moved to the Y line, and he was served before me.
As a software engineer, I understand how priority queues work, and that you can't just ignore the Y line indefinitely. But when you get to a point where the front J pax has been waiting longer than the front Y pax, and you decide to call the Y pax, you need a lesson in queue management.
The business/status/economy lines all cleared out before I was called up. Even a few Y pax who entered their line after I entered the F line were served before I was.
But if that wasn't enough, when I was finally called, it was a rude "Are you Global Services?". No, actually, I'm not. I'm the other thing your sign says this line is for.
Once on AC, I actually called out to the agent who called someone up from a different line, and she said "I'm not serving priority". I don't think she understands the definition of priority. The guy behind me moved to the Y line, and he was served before me.
As a software engineer, I understand how priority queues work, and that you can't just ignore the Y line indefinitely. But when you get to a point where the front J pax has been waiting longer than the front Y pax, and you decide to call the Y pax, you need a lesson in queue management.
#86
Join Date: Nov 2017
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As much as I like to rip on AC, I will say that at least at some Canadians airports they run a pretty good operation. In particular, at YYZ, it's nice to see that they have a priority check-in area that is physical separate and barrier'd off to kettles. They also segment out priority by status and flight (i.e. 25K, 35K/50K/Gold/75K then SuperElite counter). I wish UA had this at their hubs, but sadly it's all self serve kiosks and the occasional generic Premier Priority lane.
Safe Travels,
James
#87
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Question for the forum.
If you are Group 1 when Group 3-4-5 is boarding, do you wait to be called up by the GA, or do you cut/merge in at the front of Groups 3-4-5?
I was in this situation ORD-SFO, I tried waiting for the GA to notice me, but the gate area was so large (normally for 2-door INTL departures) that I could not be noticed. So I cut in front of Group 3-4-5, but one of those passengers made a big show of walking in front of me to "reclaim" the spot I had cut.
If you are Group 1 when Group 3-4-5 is boarding, do you wait to be called up by the GA, or do you cut/merge in at the front of Groups 3-4-5?
I was in this situation ORD-SFO, I tried waiting for the GA to notice me, but the gate area was so large (normally for 2-door INTL departures) that I could not be noticed. So I cut in front of Group 3-4-5, but one of those passengers made a big show of walking in front of me to "reclaim" the spot I had cut.
#88
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Best to let it be clear that UA is extending the benefit and not something you are doing on your own.
#89
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Question for the forum.
If you are Group 1 when Group 3-4-5 is boarding, do you wait to be called up by the GA, or do you cut/merge in at the front of Groups 3-4-5?
I was in this situation ORD-SFO, I tried waiting for the GA to notice me, but the gate area was so large (normally for 2-door INTL departures) that I could not be noticed. So I cut in front of Group 3-4-5, but one of those passengers made a big show of walking in front of me to "reclaim" the spot I had cut.
If you are Group 1 when Group 3-4-5 is boarding, do you wait to be called up by the GA, or do you cut/merge in at the front of Groups 3-4-5?
I was in this situation ORD-SFO, I tried waiting for the GA to notice me, but the gate area was so large (normally for 2-door INTL departures) that I could not be noticed. So I cut in front of Group 3-4-5, but one of those passengers made a big show of walking in front of me to "reclaim" the spot I had cut.
Safe Travels,
James
#90
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Question for the forum.
If you are Group 1 when Group 3-4-5 is boarding, do you wait to be called up by the GA, or do you cut/merge in at the front of Groups 3-4-5?
I was in this situation ORD-SFO, I tried waiting for the GA to notice me, but the gate area was so large (normally for 2-door INTL departures) that I could not be noticed. So I cut in front of Group 3-4-5, but one of those passengers made a big show of walking in front of me to "reclaim" the spot I had cut.
If you are Group 1 when Group 3-4-5 is boarding, do you wait to be called up by the GA, or do you cut/merge in at the front of Groups 3-4-5?
I was in this situation ORD-SFO, I tried waiting for the GA to notice me, but the gate area was so large (normally for 2-door INTL departures) that I could not be noticed. So I cut in front of Group 3-4-5, but one of those passengers made a big show of walking in front of me to "reclaim" the spot I had cut.