Dog running through the cabin
Aug 25, 2018, 4:11 pm
#31
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I'm confused as to why the FA as chasing the dog. The pax who brought the dog on board has the responsibility to keep it tamed.. with the exception that maybe the pax is immobile.
A while ago in the *A lounge at LAX, pax brought two "service/ES dogs" into the lounge. Lounge almost instantly sounded like an animal shelter and others were clearly unimpressed with the owner's control over them. Understandably, the owner was embarrassed so she brought them out to the outdoor terrace to have them bark at other pax relaxing outside.
I'm sure other pax informed lounge personnel of their dissatisfaction, but she appeared to have left on her own will half an hour later.
This is a policy issue that airlines need to look into. I read somewhere that dogs were not allowed in lounges, but I guess i'm wrong??
A while ago in the *A lounge at LAX, pax brought two "service/ES dogs" into the lounge. Lounge almost instantly sounded like an animal shelter and others were clearly unimpressed with the owner's control over them. Understandably, the owner was embarrassed so she brought them out to the outdoor terrace to have them bark at other pax relaxing outside.
I'm sure other pax informed lounge personnel of their dissatisfaction, but she appeared to have left on her own will half an hour later.
This is a policy issue that airlines need to look into. I read somewhere that dogs were not allowed in lounges, but I guess i'm wrong??
Aug 25, 2018, 4:23 pm
#32
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have I missed where the FA is responsible for defining who the fake ESA’s are?
Aug 25, 2018, 4:37 pm
#33
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My step-father was a breeder for the seeing eye dogs (admittedly in Australia but am assuming the training is the same), the dogs have to be able to sit/lie immobile for long stretches and if unable to do so do not pass muster as a guide dog/service animal. They then become pets.
Pets on the other hand would seem to have a need to be walked on a regular basis but the rules are they are to be in their carrier at all times.
Perhaps it would be kinder to the pets to have a pet sitter in the comfort of their own home rather than subject them to the joys of flying (if you truly love your pet and do not want to subject them to long stretches in a confined space).
Aug 25, 2018, 4:55 pm
#34
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This is the problem because idiots are trying to pass pets as service animals to save a few dollars and as a result make it harder for people who really need service animals.
Aug 25, 2018, 5:01 pm
#35
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Aug 25, 2018, 5:10 pm
#36
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Totally disagree.
My step-father was a breeder for the seeing eye dogs (admittedly in Australia but am assuming the training is the same), the dogs have to be able to sit/lie immobile for long stretches and if unable to do so do not pass muster as a guide dog/service animal. They then become pets.
Pets on the other hand would seem to have a need to be walked on a regular basis but the rules are they are to be in their carrier at all times.
Perhaps it would be kinder to the pets to have a pet sitter in the comfort of their own home rather than subject them to the joys of flying (if you truly love your pet and do not want to subject them to long stretches in a confined space).
My step-father was a breeder for the seeing eye dogs (admittedly in Australia but am assuming the training is the same), the dogs have to be able to sit/lie immobile for long stretches and if unable to do so do not pass muster as a guide dog/service animal. They then become pets.
Pets on the other hand would seem to have a need to be walked on a regular basis but the rules are they are to be in their carrier at all times.
Perhaps it would be kinder to the pets to have a pet sitter in the comfort of their own home rather than subject them to the joys of flying (if you truly love your pet and do not want to subject them to long stretches in a confined space).
Aug 25, 2018, 6:28 pm
#38
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What a novel idea! I think the wing might be the perfect place for this! A little airlock just behind the exit row...
Aug 25, 2018, 7:21 pm
#40
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Aug 25, 2018, 7:27 pm
#41
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I hope the FA washed his/her hands thoroughly between petting the dog and serving food.
Aug 25, 2018, 7:48 pm
#42
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I'm confused as to why the FA as chasing the dog. The pax who brought the dog on board has the responsibility to keep it tamed.. with the exception that maybe the pax is immobile.
A while ago in the *A lounge at LAX, pax brought two "service/ES dogs" into the lounge. Lounge almost instantly sounded like an animal shelter and others were clearly unimpressed with the owner's control over them. Understandably, the owner was embarrassed so she brought them out to the outdoor terrace to have them bark at other pax relaxing outside.
I'm sure other pax informed lounge personnel of their dissatisfaction, but she appeared to have left on her own will half an hour later.
This is a policy issue that airlines need to look into. I read somewhere that dogs were not allowed in lounges, but I guess i'm wrong??
A while ago in the *A lounge at LAX, pax brought two "service/ES dogs" into the lounge. Lounge almost instantly sounded like an animal shelter and others were clearly unimpressed with the owner's control over them. Understandably, the owner was embarrassed so she brought them out to the outdoor terrace to have them bark at other pax relaxing outside.
I'm sure other pax informed lounge personnel of their dissatisfaction, but she appeared to have left on her own will half an hour later.
This is a policy issue that airlines need to look into. I read somewhere that dogs were not allowed in lounges, but I guess i'm wrong??
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Aug 25, 2018 at 8:16 pm Reason: merging consecutive posts by same member
Aug 25, 2018, 8:15 pm
#43
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I think I’m actually more impressed that they made it past the lounge dragons!
Aug 25, 2018, 8:18 pm
#44
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Pet and service animal policy
- Service animals and in-cabin pets are welcome in United Club locations, provided local ordinances permit them.
- All policies associated with service animals and in-cabin pets traveling on United or United Express flights also apply in our United Club locations.
- In-cabin pets must remain inside their kennels with the door secured at all times.
- Animals must be trained to behave properly in public settings and follow the direction of their owners.
- Animals must be clean and under the owner's control at all times.
- Animals are not allowed to occupy seats that are designed for United Club guests.
- Animals are not allowed to eat or drink from United Club serviceware.
- Animals may not engage in disruptive behavior such as roaming freely, barking, growling or biting.
- All animals must remain on the floor when they are near food or beverage display areas.
Aug 25, 2018, 9:35 pm
#45
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This is getting worse and worse. I get that there are some people that have legit ESS animals. However, there is a huge need for a very strict, government run certifying of such animals. The animals also need to have training comparable to that of seeing eye dogs etc. So far, I haven't come across any animals on my flight. However, I am petrified of the thought. I dislike larger dogs and the thought of them near me is not comforting. ( don't I deserve to have a calm emotional flight) My niece is a lot worse. If she had a dog near her--I think she would be the one attempting to break and climb out the window--even at 30,000 feet!