UA sometimes moving international flights to domestic terminal at SFO
So who else has had United move an international flight to the domestic terminal? Flew SFO-HKG yesterday and what a .... show as United moved the flight from the international terminal to Terminal 3. Quite a chuckle, and a jog ensued for most from the United Club, followed by chaos on the plane as multiple passengers were still unaware of the change in terminals. It didn't help that the "brand new" 773 was having 747 like delays. Typical United...
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It happens. Sometimes international flights depart from Terminal 3. Sometimes domestic flights depart from the International terminal. The aircraft was inbound from Newark, so not unusual for it to park at Terminal 3. And it was windy and raining Saturday morning, so lots of SFO flights were delayed regardless of the age of the aircraft.
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The inbound flight from EWR arrived in SFO was delayed by over an hour, and there was no enough time to tow the plane from Gate 89 to the international terminal, and service the plane for the HK flight.
I have done 77W three times in the past month (both domestic and internak$ and each time I had a crew team that has never worked on the 77W before. Needless to say, there has been a lot of "learn on the go" by the crew to get the plane ready to go. On each flight, favorable wind and jet stream saved us from the delay. |
Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
(Post 28153194)
The inbound flight from EWR arrived in SFO was delayed by over an hour, and there was no enough time to tow the plane from Gate 89 to the international terminal, and service the plane for the HK flight.
I have done 77W three times in the past month (both domestic and internak$ and each time I had a crew team that has never worked on the 77W before. Needless to say, there has been a lot of "learn on the go" by the crew to get the plane ready to go. On each flight, favorable wind and jet stream saved us from the delay. |
But doesn't that compromise security? You can go through domestic security without a passport. They didn't check passports at the gate which surprised me.
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Originally Posted by zeer0
(Post 28153265)
But doesn't that compromise security? You can go through domestic security without a passport. They didn't check passports at the gate which surprised me.
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Originally Posted by zeer0
(Post 28153265)
But doesn't that compromise security? You can go through domestic security without a passport. They didn't check passports at the gate which surprised me.
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Originally Posted by zeer0
(Post 28153265)
But doesn't that compromise security? You can go through domestic security without a passport. They didn't check passports at the gate which surprised me.
2. Many UA international flights are departed from Terminal 3, such as Canada and Mexico. 3. Unless UA has your passport information on file, you need the passport in order to check-in. Everything is fine as soon as incoming non-pre-clearance flights are arrived at International Terminal Boarding Area G. |
Originally Posted by JVPhoto
(Post 28153360)
There's no domestic vs international security at US airports, just like there's no exit immigration.
If you go thru security in Canada you don't even show ID!? just your BP a whole bunch of times, which is ridiculous! |
Interesting... I just hope UA deals with such a situation better next time, as many agents in T3 were completely unaware of what was going on until boarding.
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Originally Posted by entropy
(Post 28153448)
If you go thru security in Canada you don't even show ID!? just your BP a whole bunch of times, which is ridiculous!
And maybe that's how it is for domestic Canadian flights, but every time I've flown Canada-US, I've had to show my passport to someone at least 3 times. |
Originally Posted by zeer0
(Post 28153265)
But doesn't that compromise security? You can go through domestic security without a passport. They didn't check passports at the gate which surprised me.
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Originally Posted by zeer0
(Post 28153265)
But doesn't that compromise security? You can go through domestic security without a passport. They didn't check passports at the gate which surprised me.
In USA, there is no passport control when you fly out of the country. The E, F and G departure gates in SFO are connected without going through security check. G gates in SFO are pretty busy from morning to 2pm. Last summer UA 871 to TPE sometimes used domestic gate 90 for departure. I think United gate agents will check passport again (the photo page at least) when passengers are boarding international flights? |
Originally Posted by zeer0
(Post 28153265)
But doesn't that compromise security? You can go through domestic security without a passport. They didn't check passports at the gate which surprised me.
TSA operates security checkpoints, and you must use a TSA-approved piece of photo ID - that could be a passport, but there are probably about a dozen other things - Nexus card, Driver's license, etc. I often clear security with my DL for international flights. There is no requirement for TSA to check your passport - its up to the carrier to do that.
Originally Posted by entropy
(Post 28153448)
One might argue there isn't much security anyways.
If you go thru security in Canada you don't even show ID!? just your BP a whole bunch of times, which is ridiculous!
Originally Posted by sfo3388
(Post 28154000)
I think United gate agents will check passport again (the photo page at least) when passengers are boarding international flights?
It's not like this everywhere. For example, ex-India, aside from flying UA out, I think I had SQ check my passport at boarding once, but not on multiple other carriers (nor the other times I've flown SQ). The risk is lower since one needs to clear exit immigration so show their passport there, and since you can't do mobile BPs (unless that's changed recently, you also have to show it at checkin. In the US, if you've checked in online flying international, at boarding could very easily be the only time you need to show your passport before you arrive at the destination. |
Originally Posted by zeer0
(Post 28153160)
So who else has had United move an international flight to the domestic terminal? Flew SFO-HKG yesterday and what a .... show as United moved the flight from the international terminal to Terminal 3. Quite a chuckle, and a jog ensued for most from the United Club, followed by chaos on the plane as multiple passengers were still unaware of the change in terminals. It didn't help that the "brand new" 773 was having 747 like delays. Typical United...
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