UA Orders 25 E175s and 4 B789s
Jul 16, 2018, 10:29 am
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It absolutely can be worse than 2-2-2. If I can get a seat in the center of a 787 -- especially in a bulkhead row -- I'll take that over any seat on the 77W.
The 1-2-1 seating overlaps in such a way that it uses about the same amount of space as 2-4-2 did. (Two 1-2-1 rows use about the same amount of space as one 2-4-2 row). It's masked by the all-aisle access, and I'm not suggesting that it's not an improvement. However, the forum would be up in arms if UA had tried to put 2-4-2 seating into the 787s, and not just because of the middle seats.
The 1-2-1 seating overlaps in such a way that it uses about the same amount of space as 2-4-2 did. (Two 1-2-1 rows use about the same amount of space as one 2-4-2 row). It's masked by the all-aisle access, and I'm not suggesting that it's not an improvement. However, the forum would be up in arms if UA had tried to put 2-4-2 seating into the 787s, and not just because of the middle seats.
Jul 16, 2018, 10:36 am
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I really don't like the UA 789s and will take the 77W 10 times out of 10. 1 million times out of a million.
Jul 16, 2018, 10:48 am
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Originally UA was looking at taking A350’s of some variant. Is that still in the long term plan?
I hope the ULH 789s keep a rich Polaris and P+ and E+ mix and reduce E- a few rows.
I hope the ULH 789s keep a rich Polaris and P+ and E+ mix and reduce E- a few rows.
Jul 16, 2018, 10:57 am
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I think it depends on how you configure. The 763 went from 2-2-2 to 1-1-1 and people love it. The NH 789 is 1-2-1 and just fine IMO.
I'm not sure that's a consensus view.
I really don't like the UA 789s and will take the 77W 10 times out of 10. 1 million times out of a million.
I'm not sure that's a consensus view.
I really don't like the UA 789s and will take the 77W 10 times out of 10. 1 million times out of a million.
Jul 16, 2018, 11:09 am
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Reasonable people can disagree.I'll believe that UA will fly the A350 the day that the first one appears for induction. It's clear that UA management prefer Boeing, to the point that they prefer an unannounced Boeing product (the 797) over currently-shipping Airbus products.
Jul 16, 2018, 11:18 am
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Given that UA is planning eventually to convert the 789 fleet to Polaris, there seems about zero chance that planes delivered in 2020 would come equipped with the current configuration. They might be the first Polarised 789s, but they'll have those seats almost for sure.
Jul 16, 2018, 12:29 pm
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TG 789 are reverse herringbone config, not sure how that is really comparable to UA Polaris seat. I think the reverse herringbone seat takes up even more floor space than a Polaris seat.
Jul 16, 2018, 12:32 pm
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I will take the new Polaris seats anytime. I'm well below the average girth of a modern American so I don't find it tight at all. The privacy alone is worth it - I've had way too many flights on the 2-2-2 J where you're so close to your seat partner that you're constantly being bombarded by the rank breath from their snores.
Jul 16, 2018, 12:44 pm
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+1. You run the math and Polaris gets really tight. The odd number windows are nice on the 77W, but I am mehhh on the rest of the seats. But the 777 is 15" wider than the 787. The seat map from the 787-10 shows UA intends to use the same 1-2-1 configuration as on the 77W, this will make each seat roughly 4" narrower. Perhaps an inch or two of that can be amiliarated by increasing the pitch (since the seats are slightly angled), but the seat is going to be narrow. Given that these planes are used on UHL routes, I'm not sure this is a move that will work well for UA longer term.
Jul 16, 2018, 12:55 pm
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The seat map from the 787-10 shows UA intends to use the same 1-2-1 configuration as on the 77W, this will make each seat roughly 4" narrower. Perhaps an inch or two of that can be amiliarated by increasing the pitch (since the seats are slightly angled), but the seat is going to be narrow.
Jul 16, 2018, 2:04 pm
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If you want to talk about narrow, let's talk about the Thompson Vantage on DL's 767s. That is a miserable seat.
Jul 16, 2018, 3:18 pm
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