As UC members have no access to Polaris lounges, what will be the impacts on the UCs?
#76
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The shower tangent is getting silly.
If you need to be in a specific physical and mental state for a certain known event at a particular time and day, take the flight that allows you to do so.
It's not the airline's responsibility to provide you with quasi-hotel facilities at N/C at any terminal, and doing so certainly does nothing for your already accelerated burnout going forward. I traveled weekly for almost 6 years, and never once had to put myself in the situation being discussed here.
If you need to be in a specific physical and mental state for a certain known event at a particular time and day, take the flight that allows you to do so.
It's not the airline's responsibility to provide you with quasi-hotel facilities at N/C at any terminal, and doing so certainly does nothing for your already accelerated burnout going forward. I traveled weekly for almost 6 years, and never once had to put myself in the situation being discussed here.
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Just like Lufthansa has three levels of lounges, UA now has two -- and it nly sells memberships to the bottom level.
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Does the DOT require UA to provide one if needed? You need to understand - United Clubs are not member-run facilities. United is not required to provide one and has gone through the decision-making process (right or wrong) to eliminate them for non-long-haul front cabin customers. You need a shower? That's your responsibility, according to United.
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Actually, the post I was replying to didn’t have any context. It just said something like “passengers need showers”. I agree with you re finding other places to shower. The lounges are what UA gives to us and we need ti find work around to what they don’t provide.
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#81
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I mentioned this previously, if you are flying *A airlines you do have access to all (except SIN) Int'l business class *A lounges as a UC member; irrespective of your status. In LA you have access to the excellent *A lounge in the TBIT.
If you find yourself flying a ton internationally on non-*A airlines, then priority pass may be your best bet, but the quality of the lounges is generally a step below even a United Club...
If you find yourself flying a ton internationally on non-*A airlines, then priority pass may be your best bet, but the quality of the lounges is generally a step below even a United Club...
The *A Lounge Finder is your friend. (The Lounge Buddy app should work also).
I have 4 hours in MUC on the way to MAD later this week and am hoping to find something there.
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I'd gather the business case for the SFO shower might be Asia connections from SkyTeam carriers like China Southern given Delta's limited Asia footprint. For example, want to go CAN-ATL or MSP....SFO is one of your quickest routes. SZX-MSP, SFO surprisingly works well - better timing than LAX connections. And when the Terminal 1 is expanded, who knows whether DL decides to launch some Asia service out of SFO to give UA some heat.
There is some connecting traffic, but not that much, mostly because there is no inside security transfer at SFO from T1 to the A gates, so you have to go outside of security and change terminals. I would expect connecting traffic to pick up some when the New T1 and airside connector open up c2021.
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Gah. Yes. Thank you for finally understanding my post. I don't need access to a Polaris lounge. I don't want access to a Polaris lounge. I don't feel I should have access to a Polaris lounge unless I'm flying Polaris. This is NOT about my wanting to get into a Polaris lounge. Had United built out a Polaris lounge at EWR I would happily pass it by on my way to one of the 2 regular UC in C. BUT, United took a regular lounge out of commission permanently, thereby crowding the remaining one to the point where members who've spent hundreds of dollars a year for access can't get in. THAT is what my issue is. Maybe what IAH....stated will play out that way and half the upstairs lounge will empty out when Polaris is in full swing. We'll have to see. Meanwhile, I feel UC may not hold the value for me it had previously and was hoping for suggestions on other options.
I put the fault of the misunderstanding squarely in the corner of whomever - it must have been an admin? - went in and CHANGED the subject of my post - which had been specific to EWR and nowhere else - thereby giving it a different meaning. And unfortunately I don't see any way to change it back.
Why would you do that? Why would you think you know better than I what I'm trying to say?
I put the fault of the misunderstanding squarely in the corner of whomever - it must have been an admin? - went in and CHANGED the subject of my post - which had been specific to EWR and nowhere else - thereby giving it a different meaning. And unfortunately I don't see any way to change it back.
Why would you do that? Why would you think you know better than I what I'm trying to say?
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When do people not get in?
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Have you actually been to the EWR UC lounge the past few days after Polaris opened? I was there about 1pm to about 2:30pm the other day going back to SF and it didn't seem crowded to me (although I never really found it packed when I went pre-Polaris) - but I don't know the peak times.
When do people not get in?
When do people not get in?
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I was there end of April and was handed a VOUCHER to leave the club and go to a restaurant because they were over capacity. I went in anyway and fortunately snagged one of those booth/desks just as someone was leaving. The lounge was PACKED. I didn't even go up to the bar because it was 2/3 people deep all across. I was there in March and while it wasn't as packed as in April it was still very full. Same in January. I'm off end of this week again and will see if Polaris opening has made a difference.
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The following you also have access to as a member, but require clearing security twice:
- LH lounge in Term B (ok-ish food on the biz side but limited hours)
- SAS Lounge in Term B (limited hours but large space)
- MLL in Term A (nothing great to say about this one)
So yeah, you have options. AMEX and Chase won't do anything else for you except get you into Art & Lounge in Term B which is terrible.
Edit to add: If you're flying *A airlines overseas, you have access to all of the normal *A biz lounges with your paid membership. Those are almost always infinitely better then whatever Priority Pass will offer.
- LH lounge in Term B (ok-ish food on the biz side but limited hours)
- SAS Lounge in Term B (limited hours but large space)
- MLL in Term A (nothing great to say about this one)
So yeah, you have options. AMEX and Chase won't do anything else for you except get you into Art & Lounge in Term B which is terrible.
Edit to add: If you're flying *A airlines overseas, you have access to all of the normal *A biz lounges with your paid membership. Those are almost always infinitely better then whatever Priority Pass will offer.
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At least we do have the option of using the *A lounge at TBIT if we are not flying Polaris and really want a shower!
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