2 Class Flights with 3 Class Planes --- Who gets to sit in the 3-class F seats?
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^ This. Which is also what the thread quoted by WineCountry speaks to. GS get it, and then if room, a lucky 1K or two.
Not able to pre-assigned to others without an award or in some cases reported, an instrument. It seems like these have almost always gone to gate control, outside of GS assignment.
Not able to pre-assigned to others without an award or in some cases reported, an instrument. It seems like these have almost always gone to gate control, outside of GS assignment.
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I usually take this flight once or twice a month. Next month the wife and I are coming back from Chicago and are already in paid business, I slapped a couple RPUs on there to get up to the front cabin since I need to burn some. Does this mean I will clear after GS CPUs? I may be misunderstanding.
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That's what I figured. We're currently #1/2 on the list but I know that can change. I would suspect on such a short flight that not that many people would be willing to burn a RPU but I have so many I need to start using them up (along with my GPUs).
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Earth shattering update/data point: F is still completely 0ed out (and the cabin is still booked 0/6, but Ive been sitting at #1 on the UG list (CPU) all day. Currently 3 other names which I assume the 4 of us make up the up the balance of those on the J cabin last I looked (J booked to 5 - 1 cleared upgrade = 4 revenue-ish pax)
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Earth shattering update/data point: F is still completely 0ed out (and the cabin is still booked 0/6, but Ive been sitting at #1 on the UG list (CPU) all day. Currently 3 other names which I assume the 4 of us make up the up the balance of those on the J cabin last I looked (J booked to 5 - 1 cleared upgrade = 4 revenue-ish pax)
IAH-ORD connects to the Europe bank of flights, so paid J is decent in that direction. ORD-IAH doesn’t connect to much in either direction, so I assume it’s an easy upgrade for Platinum and above.
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It appears that no upgrades outside GS clear in advance. The gate clears the rest, but since they don’t offer TODs, 1Ks stand a good chance.
IAH-ORD connects to the Europe bank of flights, so paid J is decent in that direction. ORD-IAH doesn’t connect to much in either direction, so I assume it’s an easy upgrade for Platinum and above.
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It appears that no upgrades outside GS clear in advance. The gate clears the rest, but since they don’t offer TODs, 1Ks stand a good chance.
IAH-ORD connects to the Europe bank of flights, so paid J is decent in that direction. ORD-IAH doesn’t connect to much in either direction, so I assume it’s an easy upgrade for Platinum and above.
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Good news :-)
After spending the last 24+ hours as #1 on the UG list about 45 minutes before boarding I cleared into 1A -- for a long time me and 2A were the only seats in the cabin occupied but now all cabins are showing 100% full.
In an amusing turn, I've now had the same FA working the F cabinthree flights in a row (DEN-SMF on Sunday and SMF-IAH/IAH-ORD today)...not sire what to make of that
After spending the last 24+ hours as #1 on the UG list about 45 minutes before boarding I cleared into 1A -- for a long time me and 2A were the only seats in the cabin occupied but now all cabins are showing 100% full.
In an amusing turn, I've now had the same FA working the F cabinthree flights in a row (DEN-SMF on Sunday and SMF-IAH/IAH-ORD today)...not sire what to make of that
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And everything went a little too smoothly... Just for anyone else finding this thread: Watch your PQM/PQS accruals carefully.
I was booked Z-Z-A on the trip for this thread, all domestic, and the 3-class 763 was the middle segment. Today the segments credited. The first and third credited properly (1.5 PQS and 200% PQM) but the middle segment credited as 1 PQS and 100% PQM showing the flight as "ZH" class [vs. simply Z for the other segment].
Emailed the MPSC via 1K voice and got a very quick reply that that segment was upgraded and as such isn't eligible for the 150%/200% credit -- only whatever the original purchase fare earned (duh). I replied that while I was upgraded, "Z" was the purchased fare and to please check the original PNR/ticket I referenced in the first message. Surprisingly the same agent (the first time I didn't feel stupid using the "Hi Ms. (whomever signed the last message)," salutation) replied within 3 minutes apologizing for the error and saying the additional PQM/PQS would be posted as an adjustment.
Lastly, I'm pretty sure 2A and 2C were NRSAs based on some of the conversation, so it appears that they upgraded all 4 revenue J pax to the F cabin, filled the J cabin with upgrades from Y, and then filled the empty seats in F and Y with NRSAs thus avoiding "double upgrading" anyone.
[If this were later in the year, it may not be worth the trouble, but based on the ebbs and flows of my travel and how concerned I am about making the 1K PQM/PQS targets based on where I stand now... every PQM counts]
I was booked Z-Z-A on the trip for this thread, all domestic, and the 3-class 763 was the middle segment. Today the segments credited. The first and third credited properly (1.5 PQS and 200% PQM) but the middle segment credited as 1 PQS and 100% PQM showing the flight as "ZH" class [vs. simply Z for the other segment].
Emailed the MPSC via 1K voice and got a very quick reply that that segment was upgraded and as such isn't eligible for the 150%/200% credit -- only whatever the original purchase fare earned (duh). I replied that while I was upgraded, "Z" was the purchased fare and to please check the original PNR/ticket I referenced in the first message. Surprisingly the same agent (the first time I didn't feel stupid using the "Hi Ms. (whomever signed the last message)," salutation) replied within 3 minutes apologizing for the error and saying the additional PQM/PQS would be posted as an adjustment.
Lastly, I'm pretty sure 2A and 2C were NRSAs based on some of the conversation, so it appears that they upgraded all 4 revenue J pax to the F cabin, filled the J cabin with upgrades from Y, and then filled the empty seats in F and Y with NRSAs thus avoiding "double upgrading" anyone.
[If this were later in the year, it may not be worth the trouble, but based on the ebbs and flows of my travel and how concerned I am about making the 1K PQM/PQS targets based on where I stand now... every PQM counts]
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It's distressingly well established that the code for crediting segments does something like "credit the current rbd of the coupon, unless this is a non-earning class, in which case credit 'Z' + [the first letter of the fare basis of the coupon]". Since your fare basis likely started with an H (H-up booking into Z), this happened. Indeed something to watch out for if you ever upgrade J to F on a domestic flight.
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Good news :-)
After spending the last 24+ hours as #1 on the UG list about 45 minutes before boarding I cleared into 1A -- for a long time me and 2A were the only seats in the cabin occupied but now all cabins are showing 100% full.
In an amusing turn, I've now had the same FA working the F cabinthree flights in a row (DEN-SMF on Sunday and SMF-IAH/IAH-ORD today)...not sire what to make of that
After spending the last 24+ hours as #1 on the UG list about 45 minutes before boarding I cleared into 1A -- for a long time me and 2A were the only seats in the cabin occupied but now all cabins are showing 100% full.
In an amusing turn, I've now had the same FA working the F cabinthree flights in a row (DEN-SMF on Sunday and SMF-IAH/IAH-ORD today)...not sire what to make of that
And everything went a little too smoothly... Just for anyone else finding this thread: Watch your PQM/PQS accruals carefully.
I was booked Z-Z-A on the trip for this thread, all domestic, and the 3-class 763 was the middle segment. Today the segments credited. The first and third credited properly (1.5 PQS and 200% PQM) but the middle segment credited as 1 PQS and 100% PQM showing the flight as "ZH" class [vs. simply Z for the other segment].
Emailed the MPSC via 1K voice and got a very quick reply that that segment was upgraded and as such isn't eligible for the 150%/200% credit -- only whatever the original purchase fare earned (duh). I replied that while I was upgraded, "Z" was the purchased fare and to please check the original PNR/ticket I referenced in the first message. Surprisingly the same agent (the first time I didn't feel stupid using the "Hi Ms. (whomever signed the last message)," salutation) replied within 3 minutes apologizing for the error and saying the additional PQM/PQS would be posted as an adjustment.
Lastly, I'm pretty sure 2A and 2C were NRSAs based on some of the conversation, so it appears that they upgraded all 4 revenue J pax to the F cabin, filled the J cabin with upgrades from Y, and then filled the empty seats in F and Y with NRSAs thus avoiding "double upgrading" anyone.
[If this were later in the year, it may not be worth the trouble, but based on the ebbs and flows of my travel and how concerned I am about making the 1K PQM/PQS targets based on where I stand now... every PQM counts]
I was booked Z-Z-A on the trip for this thread, all domestic, and the 3-class 763 was the middle segment. Today the segments credited. The first and third credited properly (1.5 PQS and 200% PQM) but the middle segment credited as 1 PQS and 100% PQM showing the flight as "ZH" class [vs. simply Z for the other segment].
Emailed the MPSC via 1K voice and got a very quick reply that that segment was upgraded and as such isn't eligible for the 150%/200% credit -- only whatever the original purchase fare earned (duh). I replied that while I was upgraded, "Z" was the purchased fare and to please check the original PNR/ticket I referenced in the first message. Surprisingly the same agent (the first time I didn't feel stupid using the "Hi Ms. (whomever signed the last message)," salutation) replied within 3 minutes apologizing for the error and saying the additional PQM/PQS would be posted as an adjustment.
Lastly, I'm pretty sure 2A and 2C were NRSAs based on some of the conversation, so it appears that they upgraded all 4 revenue J pax to the F cabin, filled the J cabin with upgrades from Y, and then filled the empty seats in F and Y with NRSAs thus avoiding "double upgrading" anyone.
[If this were later in the year, it may not be worth the trouble, but based on the ebbs and flows of my travel and how concerned I am about making the 1K PQM/PQS targets based on where I stand now... every PQM counts]
I hope it was a great flight and you were super comfy, I'll miss those seats!
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2 Class Flights with 3 Class Planes.
Redacted. Question answered.
Last edited by tikchik; Jun 9, 2018 at 7:56 pm