Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
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The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
May 30, 2019, 6:05 pm
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I have also found $120 to $160 is the norm to BRU/AMS, but "only" 89E if the origin is BRU or AMS. Makes me want to book my EU trips "backwards".
May 30, 2019, 6:44 pm
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Seating
Curious to know if any UA premier members, have ended up in economy plus rather than economy on BE TATL fares, looking for your personal experience
May 31, 2019, 3:25 pm
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When do you actually get your seat assignment
When does a UA Premier member get a seat assignment with a BE TATL Fare?
I can’t seem to find this information I know it says prior to boarding, could be as early at the T 24 Mark when you check-in or only at the gate?
curious to know..
I can’t seem to find this information I know it says prior to boarding, could be as early at the T 24 Mark when you check-in or only at the gate?
curious to know..
May 31, 2019, 3:29 pm
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Could be a couple of days prior to departure; could be at T-24; could be at the gate. I don't know that there's any way to predict which.
May 31, 2019, 3:34 pm
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May 31, 2019, 4:02 pm
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May 31, 2019, 4:05 pm
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May 31, 2019, 5:04 pm
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I did. Was lucky enough to get assigned an E+ aisle seat ORD-LHR and emergency exit aisle seat for LHR-ORD. Gold here. At T-24. Also there were open seats in E- when my seat was assigned.
Jun 1, 2019, 6:43 am
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i booked on expedia--UA ticket numbers--a basic economy TATL trip where the bulk of the trip is on LH, but the first and last legs are on UA.
i'll get my lifetime gold free checked bag on the outbound, but my return has me checking in at a lufthansa counter. does the 'one free 23kg checked bag for *G' still apply in 2019? if i'm reading the lufthansa website correctly, it doesn't...any recent experiences?
whoops, i take it back. depends where you look on the website...the verbiage is still there. "When booking the Economy Light fare, a fee for checked baggage also applies to Miles & More status customers and Star Alliance Gold members. As a gesture of goodwill, for the time being HON Circle Members, Senators and Star Alliance Gold members can, however, take one piece of baggage up to 23 kg free of charge."
soooo...is economy light the same thing as BE in this case (UA TATL basic economy ticket?)
i'll get my lifetime gold free checked bag on the outbound, but my return has me checking in at a lufthansa counter. does the 'one free 23kg checked bag for *G' still apply in 2019? if i'm reading the lufthansa website correctly, it doesn't...any recent experiences?
whoops, i take it back. depends where you look on the website...the verbiage is still there. "When booking the Economy Light fare, a fee for checked baggage also applies to Miles & More status customers and Star Alliance Gold members. As a gesture of goodwill, for the time being HON Circle Members, Senators and Star Alliance Gold members can, however, take one piece of baggage up to 23 kg free of charge."
soooo...is economy light the same thing as BE in this case (UA TATL basic economy ticket?)
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Jun 1, 2019, 11:03 am
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i booked on expedia--UA ticket numbers--a basic economy TATL trip where the bulk of the trip is on LH, but the first and last legs are on UA.
i'll get my lifetime gold free checked bag on the outbound, but my return has me checking in at a lufthansa counter. does the 'one free 23kg checked bag for *G' still apply in 2019? if i'm reading the lufthansa website correctly, it doesn't...any recent experiences?
whoops, i take it back. depends where you look on the website...the verbiage is still there. "When booking the Economy Light fare, a fee for checked baggage also applies to Miles & More status customers and Star Alliance Gold members. As a gesture of goodwill, for the time being HON Circle Members, Senators and Star Alliance Gold members can, however, take one piece of baggage up to 23 kg free of charge."
soooo...is economy light the same thing as BE in this case (UA TATL basic economy ticket?)
i'll get my lifetime gold free checked bag on the outbound, but my return has me checking in at a lufthansa counter. does the 'one free 23kg checked bag for *G' still apply in 2019? if i'm reading the lufthansa website correctly, it doesn't...any recent experiences?
whoops, i take it back. depends where you look on the website...the verbiage is still there. "When booking the Economy Light fare, a fee for checked baggage also applies to Miles & More status customers and Star Alliance Gold members. As a gesture of goodwill, for the time being HON Circle Members, Senators and Star Alliance Gold members can, however, take one piece of baggage up to 23 kg free of charge."
soooo...is economy light the same thing as BE in this case (UA TATL basic economy ticket?)
Jun 3, 2019, 10:00 pm
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TATL BE included W fares from the beginning, but fares originating in the US were excluded. They silently dropped that restriction sometime in the intervening months.
So, yes, it's possible to buy a W fare that you can't upgrade with a GPU.
So, yes, it's possible to buy a W fare that you can't upgrade with a GPU.
Jun 3, 2019, 10:08 pm
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Does TATL BE include V class too? I saw that.
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Jun 4, 2019, 10:29 am
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