Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
Last edit by: Kacee
The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
May 9, 2019, 1:41 pm
#437
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Really? Humm. But I have read other stories, some other people are not so lucky (flying AC and AC changed the fare class reporting for other FFP as 0%)... Trying to avoid the uncertainty when the miles are tight and time is running out... But sounds like there is still hope for UA at the moment.
May 9, 2019, 1:58 pm
#438
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May 9, 2019, 3:55 pm
#439
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May 9, 2019, 4:33 pm
#440
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Just placed a BE fare from LAX EWR BCN open jaw MAD EWR LAX in the fall. Fare was very good. However, I’m platinum and a united explorer card holder and I’m unable to pick an economy plus seat. They’re offering E- When booking for a fee, I would normally just go to the app and pick a seat and I can’t do that there as well without a fee and only for E-..Really confused. I thought Premier Platinum can get advanced seat assignments, is this only at check-in, and if so if E+ is available then can I grab one of those. I travel with one personal item and a carry-on will that be acceptable As well, or will I have to use my card benefit and check the bag (which I don’t want to). The Up fare is $160 to regular economy and I thought I try the basic to see how it works. I thought I would get group one plus a plus seating but that doesn’t seem to be the case. I’ve read several pages here and have been following along but I’m just confused. Any thoughts?
-James
May 9, 2019, 5:31 pm
#441
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I've not heard of that specifically, but even then that's not AC purposely changing the fare code, but rather the receiving FFP processing the fare code differently. This kind of stuff usually happens not when you book basic economy specifically, but when you book codeshare flights or on shady 3rd party sites that the FFP doesn't accurately process.
IME, I’ve had AC do this to me for transborder flights, but it didn’t change the earnings so it didn’t really matter. It’s not a BE thing specifically, but AC, who credits their own members not by fare class, but by fare type (which I think is now basic/standard/flex/latitude for Y). It used to be that each fare class was specific a fare type, but a year or two ago, they changed it so that fare classes go across to different types (I.e, a T fare can be a standard or a flex). Like I said, Aeroplan credits by type, while UA does it by class. I was always under the impression that AC converted the class for mileage accrual to correspond with the type, to credit their own members accordingly. For crediting to UA, i don’t think there are discrepancies on transborder, I beleive it is only domestic Canada flights where a person crediting to MP might be expecting 100% PQM based on fare class, but AC converted to a different class which earns only 25 or 50%.
May 22, 2019, 3:56 pm
#442
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New Fare Differential
I was searching for fares today LAX-BCN for late November early December. There was a great fare for around $350 however that was for BE. In the past it would be approximately $160 more for regular economy and now the differential seems to be $210. Has anyone else noticed this??
May 22, 2019, 6:33 pm
#444
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I was searching for fares today LAX-BCN for late November early December. There was a great fare for around $350 however that was for BE. In the past it would be approximately $160 more for regular economy and now the differential seems to be $210. Has anyone else noticed this??
I heard there is a trick where you can book BE but still select econ plus seats as a gold? Someone please PM me if you can help
May 23, 2019, 1:06 pm
#446
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May 25, 2019, 8:50 am
#447
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I was searching for fares today LAX-BCN for late November early December. There was a great fare for around $350 however that was for BE. In the past it would be approximately $160 more for regular economy and now the differential seems to be $210. Has anyone else noticed this??
May 25, 2019, 8:56 am
#448
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Just like domestic BE, UA is seeing what the market will bear. If you don’t like the regular economy price, buy BE, wait, or fly another airline.
BE is going to alienate some customers; so far, though, the approach seems to be working for them, so I don’t expect them to change.
BE is going to alienate some customers; so far, though, the approach seems to be working for them, so I don’t expect them to change.
May 29, 2019, 9:16 am
#449
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Just like domestic BE, UA is seeing what the market will bear. If you don’t like the regular economy price, buy BE, wait, or fly another airline.
BE is going to alienate some customers; so far, though, the approach seems to be working for them, so I don’t expect them to change.
May 30, 2019, 5:49 pm
#450
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When the fare went down even lower today, the upgrade from basic economy increased to $140 from $120 and the total fare was still $20 less. It’s really dynamic