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Old Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
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The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply

Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic
-- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.

Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.

What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
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How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.

What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus

To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix
Originally Posted by jsloan
Use f !..-lgt for your extension codes to avoid TATL BE.
Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
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United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...

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Old Jan 4, 2020, 9:46 am
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I just got an Amex Gold Preferred Rewards card. I get double points when booking direct with an airline or triple through the Amex travel portal. I'm going to buy Basic Economy tickets DUB-EWR.
Are there any downsides to not booking direct from united.com? I assume I'll still get a 6 digit reference code as normal to select or pay for seats etc?
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Old Jan 19, 2020, 9:36 am
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Hello everyone. I'll be flying with United for the first time this tuesday and I bought a BE fare ticket but it's TATL so it isn't as restrictive. I've been reading up on the experiences with it and they are surely mixed to say the least, haha. I'm curious to see what the experience will be like in person. Also I haven't read to many reviews of people flying BE TATL with a domestic connection, so I'll make sure to make a little trip report on that too. I'll be flying AMS-EWR-SFO.

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Old Jan 19, 2020, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by Faratti
Hello everyone. I'll be flying with United for the first time this tuesday and I bought a BE fare ticket but it's TATL so it isn't as restrictive. I've been reading up on the experiences with it and they are surely mixed to say the least, haha. I'm curious to see what the experience will be like in person. Also I haven't read to many reviews of people flying BE TATL with a domestic connection, so I'll make sure to make a little trip report on that too. I'll be flying AMS-EWR-SFO.
Note the domestic flight BE rules will be the same as the TATL rules. Domestic segments inherit the TATL rules and not the domestic only BE rules (which is for N fares)
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Old Feb 2, 2020, 12:41 pm
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Just came back from my trip to California. I had booked to fly from AMS to SFO with a 2h10m layover in EWR. I got my seat assignments 2 days before I was set to leave. I got a regular economy class window seat on the first leg and middle seat economy plus on the second leg. The first flight went good, had a bit of delay because of de-icing in Amsterdam but we only arrived 12 minutes late. After arrival it was clear that my second flight had been delayed because of strong winds in SFO. I got a notification from the United app and they let me change my flight to whatever was available free of charge, so that was nice. I decided to go to a service desk and asked what they could do for me, and they managed to put me on the noon flight which was now delayed to 2.30 pm (my original flight was at 2). Also managed to get a economy plus seat for that flight.

For the return legs it all went pretty smooth. I had booked LAX to AMS with a 2h25m layover at Dulles. First leg in a 787-10, first time on a dreamliner. Was pretty good, uneventful. Second leg was really good because I had gotten yet another economy plus seat assignment. On top of that the flight was pretty much half full. The economy plus cabin was especially empty so everyone had a lot extra space.

All in all, TATL BE with united isn't as bad as I had thought it would be, and for the right price (I paid 348 EUR for these flights) I'll definitely do it again.
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Old Feb 22, 2020, 8:06 am
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Basic Economy

My company booked me on an international basic economy ticket. They saved a whopping $130.

Thankfully, when I chatted with UA, the agent gave me an exception and provided me with window/aisle seats r/t. .

Any chance I can get upgraded to premier economy at the gate? Complimentary or pay.

Flying 757 across the US then 767 to LIS.
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Old Feb 22, 2020, 9:20 am
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Probably would help if you filled out your profile or provided more information. If you are Global Service odds are pretty good, if Silver not so much.
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Old Feb 22, 2020, 9:31 am
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Maybe someone else can chime in, but does UA offer paid (TOD) upgrades at check in for BE flyers? I've never booked a BE ticket (and probably never will) so have no experience. Normally when you are checking in for a flight, based on how full the plane is, UA tries to upsell you a more expensive seat.
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