Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
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The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
Jun 6, 2018, 9:49 am
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Naturally, I will have to reassess this if the "light" fares become $400-$500 less expensive.
Jun 6, 2018, 9:50 am
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So this could make your life easier, if W becomes the lowest non "light" fare.
Jun 6, 2018, 9:55 am
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Jun 6, 2018, 1:08 pm
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For point of origin U.S. the fare is planned for booking classes K, L and T. For point of origin E.U. and Canada the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W.
Jun 6, 2018, 1:33 pm
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Jun 6, 2018, 1:50 pm
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No showing up for SFO-EWR-EU but shows for EWR-EU
The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jun 6, 2018 at 3:35 pm Reason: The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
Jun 6, 2018, 2:08 pm
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That, of course, assumes that there is no chance whatsoever you'll need to change your plans. That's one thing on a $99 domestic ticket with a $200 change fee. But it's something else on a $1K international ticket that would otherwise have a $300 change fee. There's a lot more residual value there to worry about.
Jun 6, 2018, 2:31 pm
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Interesting as you made me go and look at a "K" fare I had booked for LAX-LHR-LAX for December /January that was ridiculously cheap. However, I can upgrade with miles and copay (if I choose).
I do hope they use a separate fare code as they do for BE. I never book "N" for domestic fares on United.
I do hope they use a separate fare code as they do for BE. I never book "N" for domestic fares on United.
Jun 6, 2018, 2:34 pm
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Jun 6, 2018, 2:38 pm
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Interesting as you made me go and look at a "K" fare I had booked for LAX-LHR-LAX for December /January that was ridiculously cheap. However, I can upgrade with miles and copay (if I choose).
I do hope they use a separate fare code as they do for BE. I never book "N" for domestic fares on United.
I do hope they use a separate fare code as they do for BE. I never book "N" for domestic fares on United.
Jun 6, 2018, 2:45 pm
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They are not using a separate fare code. However, they also aren't applying the rules retroactively. Only tickets purchased on or after yesterday are eligible for the Economy Light treatment. FWIW, I don't know that we should call this version BE since (a) it's not quite as punitive as BE is, and (b) I fully expect them to roll out full BE eventually if Economy Light is a success.
Here's the deal killer for me:
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED. NOTE - ------- NO UNUSED TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF ANY FARE TICKET ------- NO RESIDUAL VALUE MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF ANY OTHER FARE TICKET
$90 delta to regular economy on the route I looked at (SFO-CDG).
Jun 6, 2018, 2:46 pm
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