Jun 6, 2018, 1:40 pm
Last edit by: Kacee
The TATL -LGT Fares will be called Basic Economy Effective 12/11/2018, Additional Restrictions will Apply
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
Will earn 50% PQMs, 100% PQDs, RDMs, Lifetime miles and segment credit toward 4 UA segments needed for elite status
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
United's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
Now even more ways to fly across the Atlantic -- Atlantic Joint Venture offering with Air Canada and Lufthansa Group
New ways to fly across the Atlantic Effective June 5, 2018, United Airlines in line with Atlantic Joint Venture partners Air Canada and Lufthansa Group, will introduce a new fare option in select trans-Atlantic markets.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
Created for our customers who may be more price-sensitive, these lowest-priced fares are the first step towards a Basic Economy product on trans-Atlantic United flights. The fare includes the same inflight experience as standard United Economy but with important restrictions that you'll want to review carefully before booking.
What is the new fare option?
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
For customers traveling between the United States or Canada and select European countries in specific lower Economy booking classes, the new fare option will not include a complimentary first checked baggage allowance, upgrades or the ability to make changes following purchase.
Customers purchasing this fare for travel ticketed and operated on United will be eligible for advance seat assignments, one standard carry-on bag and one personal item, and the same United Economy cabin experience and services, including dining options, Wi-Fi for purchase and inflight entertainment.
What date is the fare option applicable?
The fare option is applicable for first ticket and first travel date on or after June 5, 2018, for all points of sale. The first bag fee does not apply to tickets purchased before June 4, 2018
.
How is the fare option identified?
For all Atlantic joint venture carriers, the last 3 characters of the fare basis code will be -LGT, and the fare type code is ERU/EOU.
For point of origin U. S. the fare is planned for booking classes K , L and T.
For point of origin E.U. and Canada, the fare is planned for booking classes K, L, T, S and W. Booking classes are subject to change and may vary by route.
The fares will vary from market to market and depend on availability. Customers traveling between the U.S. or Canada and Europe will be able to see if this fare is available on their flight when booking.
What are the conditions of the new fare option?
The new fare has some important restrictions compared to a standard United Economy ticket:
• The fare does not include a free baggage allowance for checked baggage.
• The fare is non-refundable and non-changeable except as stated in the United 24-hour flexible booking policy.
• The fare cannot be combined with any other fare type.
• The fare is not eligible for upgrades to a premium cabin (complimentary, purchased or instrument).
Are there any exemptions from the first bag fee?
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
The following customers are exempt from the fee when checking in with United and traveling on United or United Express for the first segment of a trans-Atlantic itinerary:
• MileagePlus Premier members
• Chase MileagePlus cardholders
• Members of the U.S. military
• Star Alliance Gold members
-- BE and TATL BE earns will be the same
BE uses N fares, TATL BE / -LGT can be a number of the lower discount economy fare classes
No changes -- dates, fare class, truly non-refundable ... and no upgrades
Other -LGT restrictions
Normal TATL fares include a free check bag -- -LGT fares do not for non-elites / non-credit card holders
No Premier seating benefits - i.e., no free Economy Plus
To aviod TATL BE fares
ITA Matrix Google Flights -- select 1 Carry-on bag
related threadsUnited's Basic Economy - Discussion, Q&A, ...
Benefit impact of restricted economy fares on UA Elites (Basic Econ, -LGT, Light Econ
TATL Basic Economy (renamed Dec 2018); all BE to earn 50% PQMs, earn 100% PQDs
Oct 25, 2018, 8:30 am
#196
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1K 0.7MM (trying to get to 1MM!)
Posts: 1,272
I'm looking at purchasing a TATL flight to LHR toward the end of next month, and I'm being offered to purchase United Club access for a fee. Aren't UA Platinum members traveling on an international flight already able to access the UC for free? Or has that changed recently? I believe this is the first time I've ever been given an offer to pay for UC access while having Gold (or higher) status. Is this related to a -LGT fare? Now that I look at it, even if I choose normal economy, I'm still given the same offer for UC access. What's going on?
Oct 25, 2018, 8:57 am
#197
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: London & Sonoma CA
Programs: UA 1K, MM *G for life, BAEC Gold
Posts: 10,224
I'm looking at purchasing a TATL flight to LHR toward the end of next month, and I'm being offered to purchase United Club access for a fee. Aren't UA Platinum members traveling on an international flight already able to access the UC for free? Or has that changed recently? I believe this is the first time I've ever been given an offer to pay for UC access while having Gold (or higher) status. Is this related to a -LGT fare? Now that I look at it, even if I choose normal economy, I'm still given the same offer for UC access. What's going on?
Oct 25, 2018, 12:19 pm
#198
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PIT
Programs: OZ Diamond, UA Gold
Posts: 9,919
In further confusion to upthread, I decided to give it a try to apply RPUs. It wouldn’t let me online, but I called in and the agent applied them. One glitched, but another agent was able to fix it later. Haven’t been upgraded yet, but it shows the normal “upgrade requested.”
Oct 26, 2018, 12:22 pm
#199
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: SEA/NYC/IAD
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 1,921
Looking at SEA-IAD-CDG all on UA metal. If I book via UA it's $660 or I can book on SN for $507 into a lite fare -- any idea what the PQM earnings are on this?
Edit: never mind -- looks like Google Flights has old pricing data.
Edit: never mind -- looks like Google Flights has old pricing data.
Oct 26, 2018, 3:59 pm
#200
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Silicon wasteland
Programs: UA 1KMM
Posts: 1,381
Let me know how this works... I know the -light fares are only transatlantic.
If purchased from UA, if UA is the first leg, my 1K status will let me check a bag for free. What about others on the itinerary?
On the return, I connect MAN-FRA-SFO. MAN-FRA operated by LH. Indications are the LH leg governs the "free first bag not free" logic, so I have to pay $60. But LH is giving *G first bag free @23kg, so perhaps it's not so bad, after all. On a connecting flight in europe, does the TATL or the first leg govern the bag fees?
Thanks!
If purchased from UA, if UA is the first leg, my 1K status will let me check a bag for free. What about others on the itinerary?
On the return, I connect MAN-FRA-SFO. MAN-FRA operated by LH. Indications are the LH leg governs the "free first bag not free" logic, so I have to pay $60. But LH is giving *G first bag free @23kg, so perhaps it's not so bad, after all. On a connecting flight in europe, does the TATL or the first leg govern the bag fees?
Thanks!
Oct 26, 2018, 5:18 pm
#201
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, UA Gold, WN, Global Entry; +others wherever miles/points are found
Posts: 14,410
For a TATL LGT fare component as a UA 1K, you will get 3x70 lbs when checking in at a UA counter and 1x23 kg at any other Star Alliance counter.
Oct 26, 2018, 11:26 pm
#202
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Los Angeles, CA; Philadelphia, PA
Programs: OZ Diamond
Posts: 6,134
LAX
Oct 27, 2018, 12:21 am
#203
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Posts: 14,410
(3) = As a gesture of goodwill, for the time being HON Circle Members, Senators and Star Alliance Gold members can, however, take one piece of baggage up to 23 kg free of charge. This goodwill gesture applies exclusively at the airport check-in counter. When booking a piece of baggage e.g. online or at a travel agency, a baggage charge applies.
Oct 27, 2018, 2:50 am
#204
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PIT
Programs: OZ Diamond, UA Gold
Posts: 9,919
Not quite true just yet, see footnote 3:
However, this has been tightened significantly since I last read their rules, and it seems like other LH Group carriers may not have the leniency anymore. It does seem like the very near future will phase out *G baggage benefits on these fares.
However, this has been tightened significantly since I last read their rules, and it seems like other LH Group carriers may not have the leniency anymore. It does seem like the very near future will phase out *G baggage benefits on these fares.
Oct 27, 2018, 5:28 am
#205
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Germany
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 417
Afaik LH called this a "gesture of goodwill" since the new fare was announced months ago - at least on the German website. So it's truely not clear how long this will stay, but I'd guess for some months at least.
Oct 27, 2018, 7:42 am
#206
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, CM Plat, Amex Plat, Hertz CP, Hyatt Globalist, SPG Gold, Vons Club
Posts: 6,851
I'm looking at purchasing a TATL flight to LHR toward the end of next month, and I'm being offered to purchase United Club access for a fee. Aren't UA Platinum members traveling on an international flight already able to access the UC for free? Or has that changed recently? I believe this is the first time I've ever been given an offer to pay for UC access while having Gold (or higher) status. Is this related to a -LGT fare? Now that I look at it, even if I choose normal economy, I'm still given the same offer for UC access. What's going on?
Oct 27, 2018, 10:21 am
#207
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Silicon wasteland
Programs: UA 1KMM
Posts: 1,381
Oct 27, 2018, 10:23 am
#208
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: UA Plat MM, CM Plat, Amex Plat, Hertz CP, Hyatt Globalist, SPG Gold, Vons Club
Posts: 6,851
Oct 27, 2018, 10:41 am
#209
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: YYZ
Programs: United 1K,CX GOLD,SPG GOLD, Club Carlson GOLD, Accor PLAT, Amex PLAT
Posts: 219
Planning travel with 4 others in the same reservation, I’ll be the only one with status (1K). Does anyone know if the baggage allowance I get extends to them like on a non-light fare? I know I could just take 3 bags, but wondering if they get the bag benefits as usual.
Everything is UA metal if it helps.
Everything is UA metal if it helps.
Oct 27, 2018, 10:59 am
#210
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Germany
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 417