New UA Destinations coming soon Rumors
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Chicago
Programs: UNITED 1K, THAI ROP GOLD, Marriott PLAT, Hilton Gold
Posts: 95
New UA Destinations coming soon Rumors
I am hearing (from reliable sources from the inside) that there maybe more SFO to Asia Flights coming soon? Has anyone else hear about this?
Ie..
SFO-BKK or HKG-BKK
SFO-SGN or HKG-SGN
SFO-KUL or HKG-KUL
Ie..
SFO-BKK or HKG-BKK
SFO-SGN or HKG-SGN
SFO-KUL or HKG-KUL
#2
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Somewhere I've Driven To
Programs: HiltonHonors, IHG Hotels, DL Skymiles
Posts: 2,070
Have not heard anything but it is not likely anything out of HKG to resurface as HKG-BKK was ended awhile ago and HKG-SGN ended not too long ago. OTOH SFO-BKK, SFO-SGN, SFO-KUL seem plausible. Stay tuned ?
#4
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: UA1K MM, JL JMB SAPPHIRE, Marriott Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 1,267
Fingers crossed for SFO-BKK.
#5
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: SFO
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75K, UA Gold, Marriott LTT, Avis President's Club
Posts: 1,539
I'd love SFO-BKK/SGN. However, is there enough business demand there? If its mostly a leisure route I don't see UA launching this, especially when SFO-BKK RT is ~600 these days. Based on the distance, I'm also assuming this would be a 787 route. Either way, I'm hoping for it!
I wonder how TG or VN would react to this. SQ quickly scheduled its own competing flight.
I wonder how TG or VN would react to this. SQ quickly scheduled its own competing flight.
#6
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: ORD
Programs: MileagePlus, Mileage Plan
Posts: 46
Considering UA has been cutting the 5th freedoms from HKG (HKG-BKK, HKG-SGN, and finally HKG-SIN), I'd doubt they'd add them from there. I'd bet SFO, and from the 3 listed, I'd say BKK, as that's a gaping hole in cities that don't have nonstop flights to the US. Plus, if they announced increased cooperation with Thai airways, that just strengthens the case. SGN... I suppose Vietnam is an up and coming country, but with no connecting partners, and BKK 450 miles to the west, I just don't see it. I'd love to be wrong though
#7
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: UA 1K 1MM, AA, DL
Posts: 7,418
Why would UA fly xxx-KUL when it already flies LAX/SFO-SIN?
#8
Join Date: Jul 2013
Programs: DYKWIA, But I'm a "Diamond Guest" UA 1K/2MM
Posts: 2,251
Not going to happen. For all the complaints here, UA management isn't stupid. They stick to routes where they don't have to compete -- preferably where they're shielded from competition by the U.S. govt.
No way they're going to start routes where they have to compete with airlines (Singapore, Cathay, Thai, et al) that actually offer great service (vs. lame service from crusty union hacks). That's why they dropped service from HKG and NRT to BKK, SGN, and SIN.
No way they're going to start routes where they have to compete with airlines (Singapore, Cathay, Thai, et al) that actually offer great service (vs. lame service from crusty union hacks). That's why they dropped service from HKG and NRT to BKK, SGN, and SIN.
#9
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: UA 1K; *G, AA Plat
Posts: 1,700
But they wouldn't be competing with anyone on a nonstop from the US -> BKK/SGN/KUL.
#10
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Los Angeles, California
Programs: United, American, Delta, Hyatt, Hilton, Hertz, Marriott
Posts: 14,792
How about LAX-PER?
With so many flights targeting the east coast, I’d love to see someone try Perth. I don’t think a B787 would work. It would have to be the new A350 or a long range version of the B772.
#11
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,366
LAX-PER is approximately 500 (statute) miles further than LAX-SIN. There's nothing in the UA fleet that could manage this non-stop without sacrificing a ton of payload. LAX-PER is actually 300 miles longer than QF's new 789 LHR-PER or QR's 772LR AKL-DOH service.
#12
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 812
US-Asia fares are dirt cheap right now in economy. All the airlines are making their money in business class. There's much less business travel to BKK compared to HKG or SIN or PVG. I don't see SFO-BKK happening. SFO-SZX would make slightly more sense, but there's already lot of new capacity to southeast China.
#13
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 575
I feel like SFO BKK or LAX HKG would make the most sense from a UA route network perspective.
#14
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,420
I know common wisdom in this forum is that BKK is low yield, but virtually all the major European carriers fly to BKK nonstop, and EK has five daily nonstops (four 380s).
#15
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: UA*Lifetime GS, Hyatt* Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 12,318
Whichever route(s) UA plans to start, it is important to focus on front cabin loads not the leisure traffic and upgraders' preference ( I have been one of them).
As other posters hae indicated, the economy fare is dirt cheap at the moment, and the focus has to be in the business cabin.
I fly to BKK, SGN and KUL often for business, and I have my doubts about sustaining daily flight there when the home country airlines are challenged to make the routes profitable with lower cost structure.
On LAX-HKG, one of my all time favorite routes in the UA network in the past 25 years of flying to Asia, it is probably a long shot and I have witnessed it first hand that UA had lost so much money on this route in the early 2000s and then later in the decade when it restarted briefly, and then had to cancel. Simply put it, UA cannot compete on LAX-HKG, and we all just have to accept it is not going to come back in the near term.
As other posters hae indicated, the economy fare is dirt cheap at the moment, and the focus has to be in the business cabin.
I fly to BKK, SGN and KUL often for business, and I have my doubts about sustaining daily flight there when the home country airlines are challenged to make the routes profitable with lower cost structure.
On LAX-HKG, one of my all time favorite routes in the UA network in the past 25 years of flying to Asia, it is probably a long shot and I have witnessed it first hand that UA had lost so much money on this route in the early 2000s and then later in the decade when it restarted briefly, and then had to cancel. Simply put it, UA cannot compete on LAX-HKG, and we all just have to accept it is not going to come back in the near term.
Last edited by UA_Flyer; Apr 18, 2018 at 12:41 am