New UA Destinations coming soon Rumors
Aug 28, 2018, 11:41 am
#346
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Norwegian started that route OAK-FCO, which in any event will be more of a leisure flight. I recall several years ago there was SFO-Milan service, and if UA was going to do anything, that would be more likely as there is a lot more business travel.
Aug 28, 2018, 11:56 am
#348
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Aug 28, 2018, 12:27 pm
#349
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UA wouldn't launch ZAG flights to connect with the OU hub... that operation is almost entirely redundant to what's already offered from JV hubs (FRA/MUC/ZRH/VIE) and UA wouldn't be able to share revenue. There would be the advantage of some feed, but not enough to justify starting service. ZAG also attracts a dramatically different clientele from SPU/DBV.
DBV has experienced strong yoy growth for almost a decade and coastal Croatia in general has become a popular destination for young travelers with disposable income. SPU has grown even more explosively but is facility-constrained. Its 8300' runway is tricky for summertime westbound NA ETOPS flights on a 3800nm+ sector. Dubrovnik isn't quite as popular a tourist destination as Split for American travelers, but has a 10,000' runway and captures some of the same regional market.
It falls in the same bucket as VCE, ATH, PRG, BUD, etc. Major inbound vacation markets for the US point of sale.
DBV has experienced strong yoy growth for almost a decade and coastal Croatia in general has become a popular destination for young travelers with disposable income. SPU has grown even more explosively but is facility-constrained. Its 8300' runway is tricky for summertime westbound NA ETOPS flights on a 3800nm+ sector. Dubrovnik isn't quite as popular a tourist destination as Split for American travelers, but has a 10,000' runway and captures some of the same regional market.
It falls in the same bucket as VCE, ATH, PRG, BUD, etc. Major inbound vacation markets for the US point of sale.
Aug 28, 2018, 12:48 pm
#350
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With AA/HA ending ORD-PEK/PVG and HNL-PEK, there will now be some open slots for US carriers to fly USA-PEK/PVG. Will UA use this as an opportunity to start more PVG/PEK routes? PEK-LAX/IAH/DEN and PVG-IAD/IAH/DEN are the only true "holes" (UA already has the best China network of any US carrier). DEN has been vying for a China flight, so I could see them attempting PEK-DEN and capitalizing on the incentives being offered. Wouldn't be surprised with IAH-PVG either because CA already flies IAH-PEK.
Aug 28, 2018, 1:50 pm
#351
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As others have noted, DBV is a stop, not an initiation point for cruses. That said the demand for holidays on the Dalmatian coast is huge. It is the new hot thing. Especially on the east coast. Not sure about what fares they can charge vs. connecting, but they can fill a plane.
As someone who works in the cruise industry, I don’t fully understand the idea that AA is targeting cruise passengers on the new route. Dubrovnik isn’t a departure port for the major cruise lines, only a day long port of call. Looking at the port schedule, I can only see one small European marketed ship sailing occasionally. I can’t imagine cruise pax are the main target for this route.
Two things:
1) I'm confident next summer will be very different from this year (NY Times article attached) The City has confirmed that they need to limit the amount of day trippers and hence the amount of 1 day drop off crusies flooding of 1000 passengers in the narrow streets. I would suspect more origin and destination traffic with hotel stays on either end
2) I think more smaller sailing just within the Dalmatian Coast for a week might be popular. Similar to the Bodrum gullet sailing in Turkey. As I stated, Turkey tourism is going to dry up, and Croatia is a natural spillover.
3) Of course increase in GOT and Star Wars tours.
I spent the summer in Croatia and spent 2 days in DBV during the World Cup. Wonderful city, but 2 days maximum. It's not very big, expensive compared with the rest of Croatia, and super crowded. But the islands between Split and Dubrovnik are superb.
Aug 29, 2018, 2:59 pm
#352
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Aug 21, 2019, 9:41 am
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Per the UA Instagram, sounds like there’ll be at least one new route announced tomorrow!
Aug 21, 2019, 9:48 am
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I just saw that on Twitter. UA responded 'good guess!' to "Guayaquil, Ecuador??".
I'd like to see ORD-MAD or EWR-GIG/ORD-GIG.
I'd like to see ORD-MAD or EWR-GIG/ORD-GIG.
Aug 21, 2019, 10:02 am
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If the video is any indication it looks like they’ll be introducing new routes from SFO, DEN, ORD, and EWR.
Aug 21, 2019, 10:50 am
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Aug 21, 2019, 10:51 am
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It’d be nice if they did anagrams again, but those weren’t too difficult to figure out 
ETA: In the comments, UA suggests that the video is indicative of hints - so someone who has the time to freeze-frame it can identify each location
ETA: In the comments, UA suggests that the video is indicative of hints - so someone who has the time to freeze-frame it can identify each location
Aug 21, 2019, 11:03 am
#358
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They have confirmed on Twitter that the routes are originating in EWR, ORD, SFO and DEN
Aug 21, 2019, 11:06 am
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One or two of these candidate cities with stage length well over 5000 miles: BKK, SGN, MNL, CAN, SZX, KUL, CGK, DEL, BOM and BNE.
Aug 21, 2019, 11:09 am
#360
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