FA addressing pax by first name
#46
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When I was in a customer service job in college, we always just used "sir" or "ma'am." Nowadays, you never know if addressing a person with two different chromosomes as "sir" will cause such a fuss that the server will loose his/her/its job. Perhaps just using someone's first name is a way to side step that little landmine. Plus, I assume it's far easier to butcher surnames than given names.
#48
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BA used to have a bewildering selection of titles to choose from, since pared down to a dozen or so. I wanted to pick "Most Holy". "I'm sorry, Most Holy, but we ran out of peanuts".
I was amused by "you'll never see the FA again". That's a sign you're not traveling enough!
I was amused by "you'll never see the FA again". That's a sign you're not traveling enough!
#49
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Ya think??
This isn't 1965 formal years when everyone says "Hello Mr or Ms so and so". I would never think of calling a customer by a first name. I don't expect a customer to extend their hand to me and say "hi Ian, I'm Mr Hand". Who does that? Everyone uses first names. Unless you live at Buckingham Palace I don't see this is an issue not even worth posting about.
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This isn't 1965 formal years when everyone says "Hello Mr or Ms so and so". I would never think of calling a customer by a first name. I don't expect a customer to extend their hand to me and say "hi Ian, I'm Mr Hand". Who does that? Everyone uses first names. Unless you live at Buckingham Palace I don't see this is an issue not even worth posting about.
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#51
Join Date: Oct 2009
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I grew up in an age and culture where you called people by their last names unless:
- they were a kid; or
- you knew them well; or
- they invited you to call them by their first name.
#53
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In these parts this behavior fits in the diva subculture. I know many of them.
#54
Join Date: Oct 2006
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That poor flight attendant probably got berated once for calling someone by their non-preferred gender pronoun/title and was accused of being transphobic [moderator edit]. To avoid that in the future, she (I'm making an assumption here about the FA's preferred pronoun!) now calls people by their first name.
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#55
Join Date: Jun 2015
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I never really thought about this before. Even with an oft-mispronounced last name, in the US most people still default to my last name but make it clear with upspeak that they're not sure they're correct. However, elsewhere I'm almost always referred to by my first name. And considering how formal Japanese can be, I've always been called by my first name on ANA.
#58
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Japan
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I grew up in an age and culture where you called people by their last names unless:
- they were a kid; or
- you knew them well; or
- they invited you to call them by their first name.
called by my first name at a doctor's office or anywhere else as a matter of fact. First name in Europe only within family, friends or drinking buddy.
I never really thought about this before. Even with an oft-mispronounced last name, in the US most people still default to my last name but make it clear with upspeak that they're not sure they're correct. However, elsewhere I'm almost always referred to by my first name. And considering how formal Japanese can be, I've always been called by my first name on ANA.
Asia for that matter.
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#59
Join Date: Dec 1999
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Consider the reverse
As a Californian I certainly prefer informality for most things. But consider if the tables were turned. If I heard another pax address the FA as Mary or Sue, I'd be offended. The FAs are professionals doing an often tough job, and using first names with a stranger I would view as demeaning and patronizing at least in this context.
Once or twice when I've flown the identical trip every week for months with the same FA, they've volunteered "call me Sue" and I've responded the same. But I can tell the difference between those circumstances and a first time meeting.
Once or twice when I've flown the identical trip every week for months with the same FA, they've volunteered "call me Sue" and I've responded the same. But I can tell the difference between those circumstances and a first time meeting.
#60
Join Date: Nov 2011
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I could care less if they call me by first, last, middle, or someone elses name entirely. I only care that I arrive safely, and have reasonable comfort during the trip, and the staff are pleasant.
For reference, I'm a Californian in the 45+ age bracket...
For reference, I'm a Californian in the 45+ age bracket...