LAX-HNL 772 Downgraded to 739 from Sep-4 through Dec-18
Mar 31, 2018, 4:38 pm
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LAX-HNL 772 Downgraded to 739 from Sep-4 through Dec-18
The morning LAX-HNL has been a 777 for years but appears to be replaced by a 737 in September through mid December... eliminating wide body service from LAX to Hawaii. Seems odd to cut the cargo capacity on this route. Could this be a glitch?
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Mar 31, 2018, 5:31 pm
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Various models of 737 are used going to Hawaii, at various times. Not really news.
Mar 31, 2018, 5:34 pm
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Mar 31, 2018, 5:34 pm
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But unfortunately not surprising. SFO/LAX-HNL has been one downgrade after another the past five years (acknowledging the addition of lie-flats on the 772A as one improvement).
Mar 31, 2018, 5:41 pm
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But UA's service to Hawaii has lost all of its special quality post Smisik. Just flew to LIH, and other than the flight being 6 hours (and blankets in E+), we just as well might have been flying to Little Rock. OALs are eating UA's lunch on the Hawaii routes, and downgages is the natural response.
P.s. and UA's pricing is also wonky, sort of like they have not adjusted to how damaged their brand now is. UA wanted $1100 RT, so I booked my parrents on HA for less (and they got FC on the way home). We held off booking, and 45 days before we left, UA dropped its pricing to the $600 range (when HA/AS was $800+). Yet on one of the highest impact travel days (right before easter) plane had 30 seats showing before take-off and it was a feast for the non-revs...
Mar 31, 2018, 5:44 pm
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Mar 31, 2018, 6:21 pm
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AA will operate 6x/day (all 321) through September, and then down to 4x/day (all 321) over the winter. DL will reduce its LAX-HNL frequency to 3x/day (763/753/753) in September. Outside of the 2-week Christmas/New Year period, DL's 4th nonstop will not return, so the reduction is presumably permanent. Meanwhile, UA will resume 5x/day on a mix of 753/739 during the winter. The Mainland-Hawaii market is oversaturated, but UA is still the leader among the US3 so it can still exercise some pricing power (but not much). The loss of widebody and lie-flats on a 5-hour leisure-heavy route is unimportant. Nonrevs are the only loser, IMO.
Mar 31, 2018, 6:27 pm
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Narrowbodied 3-3 planes are the worst for coach passengers. You can't move around.
Mar 31, 2018, 7:51 pm
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Mar 31, 2018, 8:10 pm
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The seats are narrower, the aisle narrower, ratio of lavs to passengers is downright obscene. The only good thing is the 40% aisle seats vs 33% on single isle. On the other hand, 40% of the seats are middle seats vs 33% on the single aisle. At least United’s found one customer who prefers the 777 in coach...They’ll be contacting you to get your endorsement 🙂
Mar 31, 2018, 8:59 pm
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Mar 31, 2018, 9:27 pm
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I’m tired of hearing the 777HD is worse than a 737 in Y! I’ve been on the 777HD over 50 times, its 100% better than the 737, 8, or 9. More room to walk around, easier access to the lavs during service and a better chance of an empty seat. The seat width is only an issue if you have a heavier person next to you. Just flew back to back 777HD for 4 hours and a 738 for an hour, couldn’t wait to get off the 738. The tablet holders are awesome!!
And of course much better in First!
Mar 31, 2018, 9:37 pm
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Did you actually fly UA‘s 77G ? Or any other airlines 777 that are 3-4-3 ? i am 5"9 and 150 lbs, am i obese ? As i found UA‘s 77G even in E+ are extremely narrow, the extra legroom did not help at all, i felt extremely uncomfortable even on a 4 hours ORD-SFO, i didnt feel that way on NH‘s 3-4-3 77W or AA‘s 77W (non MCE)
Apr 1, 2018, 1:14 am
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Same here. Whenever there are lie flats I purchase the F seat (772 and 752); with recliner seats I just roll the dice with upgrades. With such few upgrades showing I figured most folks do the same.